The View December 17th Recap: Margaret Hoover and OneRepublic
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Today on The View, it was another “Day of Hot Topics,” although I am not sure why they called it that since they had a musical guest also. Republican strategist Margaret Hoover appeared on the show. She is the great granddaughter of Herbert Hoover. Joy Behar joked that the female conservatives that come on the show are always dressed like hooches (she had on a silver sparkly minidress).
Joy said that she heard that conservatives have more orgasms than liberals. Margaret said that she wouldn’t know, having never been a liberal but that, unlike Joy, she did not miss the sexual revolution. Joy said that she did not miss it, she was just married. Margaret asked Whoopi if she missed the sexual revolution and Whoopi said “I am the sexual revolution.”
Margaret said that she was taught in school that Herbert Hoover caused the depression. She went home crying and her father crossed out that part of her text book. Margaret said that she wants people to know the good things that he did for the country as well.
Margaret used to work for Rudy Giuliani as a fund raiser and left the campaign a year ago. (Her official title was Deputy Finance Director to Rudy Giuliani’s Presidential Exploratory Committee). She left the campaign because she wants to speak her own voice and “do her own thing” and “be a talking head.” She says that if he is the candidate up against Hillary Clinton, a lot of family issues will come up, maybe like the Monica Lewinsky issue. Joy said that Hillary was not the one on her knees in the oval office. There is a poll that says that women are less likely to vote for Giuliani because of the way that he dumped his wife.
Margaret thinks that the early primary states are not going to matter as much as previous years because there are so many other states having primaries before February 5th. She thinks that the momentum will not be the same. Whoopi said that the momentum is more something that is talked about in the press.
Sherri Shepherd shut down The View Christmas party, along with Bill Geddie. She said that there is something about Christmas parties that brings the freak out in people. She said that she was dancing with Bill Geddie to a 50 cent song and had her booty up on him, telling him “smack by booty!” She said that if Bill’s daughter had not been there, he would have. They showed Bill on the sideline and he said he didn’t know what to do, or something to that effect.
Sherri said that Jeffrey was in town and she took him to a fancy toy store and he had a meltdown because he missed his nap. She told him that he should calm down because they were in a rich white person store. Whoopi said that she sees all kinds of babies screaming in there, not just white babies. Sherri was embarrassed and didn’t know what to do. She said it didn’t look like a store where they beat their kids, so she couldn’t do what she normally would do.
Joy went to Florida for a gig over the weekend. She went to a buffet at the hotel and a child kept saying “Ma Ma Ma Ma,” as his mother got her food. Joy thought she was just an annoying kid. Now she thinks that there might be something wrong with the kid because it seems like everyone always has to label kids as ADHD or autistic or something. Whoopi said that when she was a kid, she could only get a way with saying “Ma Ma” once and she would get a glare and would stop it.
Whoopi said that once time when her daughter was four, she wanted to stop in a store, but they needed to go home. The daughter went limp and would not walk. Whoopi threatened to leave her on the sidewalk if she didn’t walk, and she never did anything like that again.
A bus driver got angry because someone called in to complain about his behavior and, in retalliation, he stopped the bus and would not let anyone off, including a pregnant woman, for an hour and a half. Margaret joked that he needed a nap.
Autograph magazine has released their list of who is friendly and unfriendly about giving autographs to fans. Whoopi said that there are inappropriate times to ask for autographs, such as when she is eating, gambling, or having fun doing something else. Fans need to realize that they are only one of many people asking that day. Sherri said that a person who sees Whoopi will know that it is a once in a lifetime opportunity to get Whoopi’s autograph. Whoopi said that if you want my autograph, I should stop what I am doing for you? “Who the hell are you?” The person should wait until she is not eating or whatever. She used to stop and do everything for everybody and learned that you can’t do it.
Joy said that the woman doing the X-ray machine at the airport saw her and shouted “Joy!” Joy told her to get back to looking at the bags. The security woman said “You aren’t going to talk about me on Monday, are you?” Joy told her “no.”
Joy has a cat named Benito Pussolini. She joked that he is a fat, fascist cat. He accidentally got his tail caught in the door and a piece of it got cut off. He strolled over and continued eating, like nothing was wrong. He has to wear a collar now and his tail is all bandaged up.
They gave away the last three Dodge Caravans in their “Caroling for a Caravan” contest.
Musical group OneRepublic appeared on the show to perform their song “Apologize.” It was the drummer’s birthday.
The View, Margaret Hoover, One Republic, Sherri Shepherd, Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar
December 17th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Wow.. what a show today!! Is it me or did Joy appeared to be combatitive to the guest host because she is a republican??? Margaret Hoover, I just have to say is one classy lady. She handled Joy just perfectly and had a great sense of humor. She didnt come off as extreme right wingered and did express her point of view without being forceful. THe look on Whoopies face was priceless when Joy said Margaret was dressed like a Hoochi Mama for a republican. Now this is a republican I would love to see on the view. If she had more opportunity to speak on the show today, I would of been interested in her point of view. She just broke the mold for me for female republicans.
Omg.. Sherry .. again talking about not having the ability to beat her child like normal cause she was in a rich white persons store. I will leave that one alone..
BUT!!!!!!!!!!! The argument between Sherry and Whoopi in regards to allowing strangers to interrupt your dinner or gambling time because they are fans was quite exciting!!! Sherry swings around in her chair like.. OH YEAH!!!! WHoppi was like.. BRING IT ON!!!! OH YOU WANNA FIGHT???? OMG.. if you missed it.. you must find it somewhere. But as usual, Sherry finds a way to take the crap from Whoopi and moves on easily. Sherry definitely tried to flex her muscles today but just had to face it that Whoopi is older and has more insurance. (I know u must know the movie..)
For a day of just Hot Topics.. there where more commercials than eva!!! They wasted to much time for exciting conversation..
December 17th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Fried Green Tomatoes! What do I win?
December 17th, 2007 at 11:18 am
Yeah I liked Margaret Hoover on the show as well, she didnt come off as a hateful, overbearing conservative. I dont know, she just had a good vibe. She had a weird laugh but it was better than her just sitting there stone faced.
The conversation about autographs did get pretty intense! I loved how sherri was speaking from a fans perspective and I totally agreed with her points.
I dont think there was anything else noteworthy.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:20 am
lmaoooooooo winnie!!!! You get an assertive training class for southern women.
Of course that’s a contradiction in terms.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:27 am
Liked the all talk show today..fun! All three of the comedians cut loose with funny remarks…no one there to slow them down..:) Didn’t care for Miss Hoover…she had the motor mouth high pitched voice very much like EH..they even look alike and of course she had to bring up the Clinton thing as in “people don’t want to see the Clintons back in”. Don’t speak for me, Miss. The three comedians could have carried the show very well alone..many laughs!
December 17th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Didn’t care for Miss Hoover…she had the motor mouth high pitched voice very much like EH..they even look alike and of course she had to bring up the Clinton thing as in “people don’t want to see the Clintons back in”.
Well May, I totally felt the same. Her voice was very annoying to me. I would rather have listened to Joy say “ma, ma” ,throughout the show, then listen to Marget’s voice.
Hilliary is the victim of her husbands cheating, so why would that stop people from voting for her?
I also liked Sherri today, I agree with her about fans and celebrities, but I can see Whoopi’s point too.
December 17th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
Rainlillie, I also would take quite a few “ma mas” and a few more “da das” rather than listen to another pundit dis the Clintons. I guess these folks would prefer bush’s war and soaring budget deficit over the budget SURPLUS that Clinton left. uh oh I feel my blood pressure rising again…
December 17th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
I finally got to watch a show. It wasn’t great, but not bad.
I thought Margaret Hoover did a nice job on the show. I don’t know much about her, but she seemed to have a very good sense of humor.
My favorite pet peeve about politics is the dirtiness, I hate the mud slinging,..on both sides. My personal feeling is that when one resorts to slinging mud, they must not have many ideas, plans, and strategies to bring this country back to where it needs to be, and bring the American people more together. I don’t want to hear dirt and mud, I want to hear what they plan to do for us and our country.
Although I liked that Sherri took the side of the fans, I found that I agreed more with Whoopi on the autographs and fans thing. I think fans have to try to be more considerate, especially if a celebrity is with their family.
December 17th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Rainlillie, I also would take quite a few “ma mas” and a few more “da das” rather than listen to another pundit dis the Clintons. I guess these folks would prefer bush’s war and soaring budget deficit over the budget SURPLUS that Clinton left. uh oh I feel my blood pressure rising again…
I’m with you May. I thought to myself, okay they have a clone factory behind the studios of Faux news, and all of the female GOP pundits are made there. They have an obsession with Bill’s sex life. I mean either they want Monica or Bill.. They can’t start a sentence without, well Bill and Monica. That story is old and tired! So MOVE ON already! Bill isn’t running for office and I don’t think Hilliary has been unfaithful, so what’s th point?
December 17th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
“! I loved how sherri was speaking from a fans perspective and I totally agreed with her points.”
I did too. Whoopi was a little hostile. As Sherri said the fans are the people who “buy the tickets CD’s” and all of the other products these people put out. I don’t see anything wrong with approaching someone and asking for an autograph. All they have to do is say I can’t right now. I thought Whoopi came across very nasty. I hope Sherri will stay the way that she is and will continue appreciate the fans. That’s what I love about Rosie, she never puts herself above the fans.
December 17th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
Personally, I thought it was another let-down as far as all HT specials go.
Very reminiscent of the time when they had Laura Ingraham on.
I really hate when they hype a co-host, all “and on Monday, we’re having a whole hour of HT with Republican Margaret Hoover. However, we have no intention of grilling her on any topic relevant with her position, or opinions.”
Then why they hyped her as “Republican M. Hoover” as opposed to just “M.Hoover”, (besides the fact she worked for Guiliani, but they spent so little time on that)… I dunno.
Maybe I’m difficult, or picky, but I think I’ve given up on that show.
I had hope last week, after they did two good shows in a row, but they immediately reverted to same old, same old; it’s just not lifting off, for me.
Whoopi annoyed me today, with her autograph thing. I’m aware some fans are probably pains in the backside, but I’m sure many of them are also considerate, and I agree with Sherri, what are my chances of bumping face-to-face into Whoopi Goldberg twice in my life? Not that I’m a big fan, but assuming I was the kind who’s seen all her movies, her stand-up comedy, listens to her radio-show and so on, I’d be very put off if I snuck up to her with a “I think you’re really wonderful” and was brushed off by a “NOT NOW! I’m eating!”
I really get peeved when celebs complain about the attention they get. That’s the price of fame, and your fans are ultimately the ones who put you where you are; if they didn’t come to see your comedy, your movies, you wouldn’t rich and famous, you wouldn’t be on the View. Deal with it. Show a little gratitude.
Sorry, but that made me kind of mad. I wish she just hadn’t said it.
So for once, I agreed with Sherri. It’s worth noting since it probably hasn’t happened since october.
And at this point, I find myself hoping that one of these days, Sherri’s gonna get pissed off and get her claws out.
I find she’s getting patronized a hell of a lot on that show (I don’t think EH would respond that well to that kind of treatment, for some reason).
I recall not long ago, Joy jumping in the conversation to defend Sherri, who had both Whoopi and Babs ganged up on her.
As I said, I rarely agree with Sherri, but heck, give her a break! The woman can’t even finish a story without Whoopi jumping on her back. And Sherri, sooner or later, just backs down. I hope to see the day when she just gets livid and firmly puts everyone back in their place.
December 17th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
“I hope Sherri will stay the way that she is and will continue appreciate the fans. That’s what I love about Rosie, she never puts herself above the fans.”
Just wanted to add, completely agree with you Rainlillie.
No matter what my opinions about Sherri are, she is a very endearing person, in the way that she’s very candid in a lot of ways, and it’s obvious that fame hasn’t gone up to her head.
I hope she doesn’t lose that, and she doesn’t strike me as the kind of person who will. I don’t believe she’ll ever forget how hard her life was before she made it, and I don’t believe she’ll lose that perspective.
Same goes for Rosie; I’m reading Celebrity Detox at the moment(yes, still, I’m a slow reader, LOL!) and she writes a lot about the audience, and how she thinks they never should have to wait in the rain to see a taping, and how everything should be done so that they’re comfortable, and it’s really touching the way she writes it. I really get from her that she knows where she comes from, how she got to where she is, and she’s appreciative of it.
Love her or hate her, Rosie’s perspective about fame is really refreshing, I find.
December 17th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
I don’t see why they can’t get a political conservative on who doesn’t start throwing out attacks and insults…. although it ’s pretty difficult for them to find anyone good to promote right now!
December 17th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
“I find she’s getting patronized a hell of a lot on that show (I don’t think EH would respond that well to that kind of treatment, for some reason).”
I found Rosie to be patronizing, rude, and condescending towards EH…and then we all know what happened.
There are times when Whoopi treats EH the same way.
December 17th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
To me, Sherri comes off as racist. She has said racial things, like a rich white person store, many times. I’d like to know why on TV it’s okay for black people to be racist and say stuff like that or to call people white trash, but if a white person does it, there is an outrage and Al Sharpton comes riding in his turbo jet.
The only person on this show that entertains me anymore is Joy. Sherri to me is just ignorant, Whoopi is too impressed with herself and Barbara is so out of touch with reality it isn’t even funny.
December 17th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
” I found Rosie to be patronizing, rude, and condescending towards EH…and then we all know what happened.”
New Linda,
That went both ways. EH dished it out to Rosie too. I always thought Rosie was made to be the bully because of her size. We all went to high school and we know that size doesn’t matter when it comes to being mean and nasty.
December 17th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Why is saying “rich white person store” racist? Why does it make you uncomfortable? I’m not posing this question as a challenge, but out of curiosity.
December 17th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Sure, EH dished it out. That’s her job.
I was responding to Rachel’s comment re EH not standing for being patronized. And that EH did in fact take it for a very long time.
She has also taken it with Whoopi.
December 17th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
I was never under the impression that EH “took it” from Rosie.
I was quite surprised at EH’s abilities to fight back, actually.
Maybe the fact that EH so looked like no match for Rosie, made Rosie look more like a bully than say, Whoopi. Rosie was pretty much EH’s polar opposite, physically, politically, etc.
However, I find the way Whoopi addresses Sherri to be more condescending than Rosie’s ever been towards EH.
That’s how I see it, anyway.
I don’t even remember what kind of interaction Whoopi and EH had before EH went on leave. However, I never really noticed Whoopi being as patronizing towards EH as she is towards Sherri.
Maybe Sherri, being the new kid on the block, makes her an “easy target” for lack of a better expression.
But then again, I’ve missed quite a lot of shows this season, and a lot of the ones I missed I didn’t bother to catch up on. I just came here, read the recap, and so far, never found myself having to rush over to You Tube. So I guess I got lucky and caught live the 5 hot moments of the View’s season 11, part 1. Most of which seem to be courtesy of Sherri, ironically.
December 17th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
I am kinda suprised on the discussion of M. Hoover. I guess not liking M. Hoover is to say any GOP is a bad GOP. I thought M. Hoover was refreshing and was none like EH or her evil twin.. Laura Ingram. I dont think anything M. had said today wasn’t what both left and right wing blogs are talking about today as a point of discussion. It seemed as soon as she opened her mouth, she was slammed and didnt have the opportunity to clarify her statements or questions asked. She was making the comment for the scenario if Hillary and Rudi where running against each other that the issue of family values will come up. I believe she also meant that towards Rudy as well. (lets not forget she quit his campaign and sort of veered away from that explanation) I am not sure she actually brought up Monica. Joy did. It sounds to me that if in that scenario, that would be the issue for debate. I can certainly see the GOP try to use that against Hilary to deflect Rudi’s indescretions. Its most certainly would happen. I dont think M. is making this up. Not saying its right, but politics are dirty. She had also made comment to people may not wanting to see another Clinton in office. Well that is certainly true of the GOP point of view which is no surprise. The liberals on the show make it clear they dont want to see a GOP in office either. There has been alot of blogging of how many years the Bush family and potentially the Clinton family would have held office. (could be 28 years for 2 families) So my point is, she expresses her views.. wish I heard more so to have heard intelligent debates but she was less forceful and angry to opposing views. Seems like someone you can debate with. I dont realy care if her voice is high as long as it didnt go in the direction of overtalking, accusing, judgemental type of rhetoric. This was a first for the view is all I am saying….
December 17th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
I guess we all have our own threshold. EH took a lot from R or shall I say more than I would have.
But keep in mind that I’ve been fired from every job I ever held because no one, and I mean no one, is permitted to talk down to me. That’s the reason I run my own company.
From the clips I’ve seen on The View site, I have found Whoopi to be patronizing towards EH.
But again, I’m probably putting myself in EH’s shoes and I know that if I were spoken to in that fashion the conversation would go downhill very quickly.
December 17th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Shannon: WOW!! I was just going to leave it at that, but I am not. This is a nice blog. With intelligent people, male & female and I am sure made up of the many colors of the rainbow, that take the time to think before they post. I will leave it at that.
December 17th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
“She was making the comment for the scenario if Hillary and Rudi where running against each other that the issue of family values will come up.”
I only saw the clip on The View site.
The problem I had with M is that the question posed was regarding Gulliani and M used a straw man’s agrument to answer the question. That is just another political strategy that makes my stomache turn.
December 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
New Linda, I am glad you brought up that point, it appears M. is a political analyst for the evil side o-) But that is really the only things I find on her. Being said that, this should make the other hosts and do their homework to have a decent discussion with her. She makes good talking points regarding the election and it appears if a points unclear, she will slant it. But you dont see her at all discussing abortion, divorce, womans rights etc. So to me she doesnt come off as a religious right winger. It appears that alot of her analytical views are taking down Hillary. Why you may ask??? Because they are way to concerned that she will win this election. So I would imagine you would have to be on your toes with her in debating. Its just not everyday you see a GOP cohost who is not angry and willing to discuss topics also meaning allowing other people to talk.. unfortunately, they would let her talk today much.
December 17th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
“M. is a political analyst for the evil side o-) But that is really the only things I find on her.”
then you are more forgiving than i am because that’s all i need to find her offensive.
“But you dont see her at all discussing abortion, divorce, womans rights etc.”
she was only on the show once…give her time.
but she campaigned for G so perhaps her views on social issues are on the liberal side.
“hosts and do their homework to have a decent discussion with her.”
if someone uses a straw man’s agrument, then it’s not an honest discussion. so it doesn’t matter how well read someone is on a specific subject, the straw man’s agrument is used as a vehicle NOT to have a decent discussion. that’s the whole point of it.
December 17th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
“From the clips I’ve seen on The View site, I have found Whoopi to be patronizing towards EH.”
You may very well be right about that. I’ve read a similar remark on another forum a couple of days ago, someone was mentioning a Whoopi/EH tension, and I again was, Oh, really? Didn’t notice.
As I said, I did miss quite a few shows this season, or only caught them halfway through, post-HT, which is usually the most heated part of the show.
And when I come here, I can usually quickly tell by the number of comments if I missed anything good.
Pearls like “Nothing came before Jesus” have a way to get the blogs and forums going, Lol!
So the only videos I’ve watched on the ABC site so far were that ones when Meredith came as a guest earlier this season.
I said I got High-speed internet a while back, but it’s only intermediate, it comes a bit short for streaming videos, and with all the bloody ads on the View site, the clips take a while to load, so I haven’t bothered much.
However, if you -or anyone, for that matter- can think of some specific clip(s) where Whoopi’s being a snot to EH, please let me know which ones and I’ll totally watch them!
I’ve also realized recently that I got used to a EH-free panel much quicker than I thought I would. Very often, I forget that she’s still part of the show and that she’ll be back in a month. It’s like for me, she belongs to the “old View”, like Meredith and Star. Weird. I never felt that way when she got Grace. For some reason, she seems very “long ago” to me now, maybe that’s why I can’t really think of stuff she said or did this year, besides the “what are the parents doing” line and Barry Manilov’s little tantrum.
December 17th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
I watched all of the shows when Rosie was on, and I never saw Rosie give anything to EH that she didn’t deserve. Can someone please give me an example of Rosie going after EH for no good reason? Usually, Rosie was challenging EH’s talking points.
As far as the EH clone that was on today’s show, I was responding to May’s comments. I didn’t see the beginning of the shobw, but from what I watched I found her very annoying. I thought Joy and Sherri both were tolerable today.
December 17th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
The way Sherri was drooling over Sam Elliott , I seriously doubt she’s racist.
December 17th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Sure, R challenged EH for a reason. And sometimes R did so while being patronizing, condescending, and so on.
One factor doesn’t negate the other.
December 17th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
“However, if you -or anyone, for that matter- can think of some specific clip(s) where Whoopi’s being a snot to EH, please let me know which ones and I’ll totally watch them!”
Two that come to mind was a discussion on abortion and another when EH brought up Monica out of left field (Joy came to EH’s defense)
Let me be very clear. In both instances EH should have been taken to task, but it is obvious to me that she isn’t respected as much as the other co hosts because of the WAY she is challenged. The same goes for Sherri.
The agrument can be made that EH doesn’t deserve respect. Fine. Run with that view.
December 17th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Hoover certainly danced her way around some questions. First she dodged the query concerning why she left the Guilliani campaign. She finally said something along the lines of now having the ability to speak on shows or something like that. She said she would not have been able to come on The View if she still worked w/ Guilliani. Somehow, I doubt that was the true reason.
Later, she said she works for someone. Did anyone else catch that?
I actually though today’s show was one of the best. Energy was fairly high.
Hoover was a good natured guest. Although I did not care for her deflecting questions by mentioning Clinton when discussing Guilliani, I did find her quite pleasant and fairly knowledgeable. 3,000 times more tolerable compared to Ingrams (shudder). Her voice was annoying, and that laugh. EEK. But I’d take her over EH any day.
I did understand Whoopi’s point about celebs and the autograph but I found her overbearing and monopolizing argument to be dreadful. Whoopi needs to take a chill pill and know when it’s time to back off.
Sherri’s description of her behavior at the View party made me blush! OH MY! YIKES!!!! I hope she really didn’t act that way in dancing with BillG. (ick!)
Sherri is a bit naive and probably needs to sift what is in her head before it comes out of her mouth. But I would not label her a racist.
Sherri looked nice today in purple. And she was quite fun today, even after getting the verbal tongue lashing from Whoopi. “But there was a sale…”! LOL.
Love the all day HT.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Agree. Sherri is naive, almost childlike. She’s having the time of her life and is adjusting to the fab NY life. And she’s had some serious issues in her life. She might not be the best informed host :(, but she is not mean-spirited. I also don’t think she’s racist, but perhaps a little suspecious some other people might be. She also probably became uncomfortable in what she thought might be a nice little outing to a chi-chi shop.
December 17th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
“But I’d take her over EH any day.”
I have to agree with you on that. But I’d take her over EH any day.
“Sure, R challenged EH for a reason. And sometimes R did so while being patronizing, condescending, and so on.”
Sometimes such behavior is justified. Especially when the person is out of control. Take the time when Rory Kennedy was the guest. Instead of listening to Rory, she tried to talk over her with her talking points. That’s when Rosie stepped in. I wanted to hear what Rory had to say, not EH’s opinion. After all Rory investigated the incidents, she was speaking from first hand experience, EH wasn’t.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
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December 17th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
So it seems that we agree, Rain. R was at times patronizing blah blah blah. The fact that it was justified doesn’t negate the fact that she was.
Though I don’t think the example provided was a good one. R did a lot of talking providing her opinion on the documentary as well.
That day I was annoyed with both R and EH. Like you, I wanted to hear what Rory had to say. Not the opinion of the hosts.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Really,
I don’t recall that being the case, I’d have to watch the clip again. Rosie being the moderator, conducted the majority of the interview. The example I gave was the only time I recall Rosie behaving that way. If you have other examples please provide them.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Stacee,
I did alot of research on youtube and and M. Hoovers site and I she has done alot of pundit work for Fox Noise Channel.. That may be who she is contracted with and didnt want to say in order to keep from getting anhiliated. The reason I say she doesnt publicly speak on other issues related to woman because I couldnt find anything. All her interviews I could find is on the elections. So i think the answer to your question is fox noise.
December 17th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
I agree with Rosie politically. My position isn’t coming from a perspective of a Rosie hater.
R’s role as the moderator should have been to ask questions, not provide her opinion. Especially when she shot EH down for providing hers.
In fact, R apologized to EH via email and they spent the whole night “talking” about the documentary…no doubt each of them trying to change the opinion of the other. Finally, Kelli told R that the emailing was enough.
Pick just about any episode where politics was discussed and R shut EH down. Again, the agrument can be made that EH deserves it, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that R doesn’t know how to engage in a healthy debate.
On a side note, neither does EH because her agruments lack integrity.
I love Rosie. I enjoy her. The View wasn’t the right platform for her. Though she may dislike the type of show Hannity puts on, R slowly started stearing the show in that direction.
It’s a shame she didn’t realize she brought in that “split screen” mentality that made her leave the show.
Her platform would have worked best at MSNBC. Too bad that deal didn’t go through.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Didn’t mean to ruffle anyone’s feathers…it is just my opinion that Sherri is a reversed racist. If I said I was in a black person store, people would have a heart attack over it. Sherri has made comments before about white people. It wouldn’t fly if it was reversed and a white person was saying it about a black person.
Sherri just comes off as extremely ignorant to me.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Well, I do believe all that could possibly be said about today’s show has already been said! And some shows past. Either way, I guess my two cents would simply be to say that I, too, found that Dam Hoover woman quite annoying.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
“Fox Noise” — ahhh … music to my ears. Because
everytime someone calls it for what it is, “an angel gets its wings.” It’s supposed to be the season for catching up with “loved ones” you don’t see or talk to much … and what do I get? “How ya doin’, Peaches? How are things with [fill in the blank]?” No, oh, no. Instead, I get rants and ditties inspired by Fart News that are thinly veiled anti-immgrant (to put it nicely) paranoia. Instead of partridges in pear trees I’m getting “the war on Christmas” videos with local yokel pundits from all over this country piggy-backing on O’Reilly’s b.s. I am so frustrated tonight. Here we are in 2007, ten plus years since the right-wing windbag apparatus set up shop polluting minds and lowering standards for discourse, and people who bought into it in the first place have not budged one iota. Not a smidge. (At least the ones I know.) I’m not even talking about their views and political persuasions. I mean they still do not see the disinformation for what it is….. I am far far behind on watching View tapes, and less and less relevant to Winnie’s blog, but while this contest she’s in is still going on, I want to check in when I can and vote for her because she deserves it, and I want to do my part by adding a comment that I hope the judges will read and think about as to why I think her submissions are winners. Which brought me here tonight, scrolling, thinking oh gee, yet another View I wish I had watched….. Scrolling scrolling … then I see Rosie’s name and Rosie always makes me perk up. So I’ll weigh in, just for the record. And I’ll just say that *for me*, and I realize I am a party of one, here, but so what … for me, I will forever and ever be thankful that Rosie performed as a big ol’ traffic cop during her tenure on the show, holding up her hand and saying hold the phone whenever EH tried to maneuver the discussion into yet another retread of Fart News. To take the Rory Kennedy show, because that’s one I did watch and remember for all the psycho drama, I didn’t rely on The View to get my info about her documentary. I figured I could just get a taste for what it was all about, and then go look it up elsewhere online or see a more indepth interview by fewer than 5 or 6 people. (And I realize not everyone has the luxury of doing that …. unfortunately some people do have to rely on The View for their source of info.) What I did want to see on The View that day, and other days with Rosie, is just what happened: She tried to put a stop to the predictable Fox blathering by EH. Unfortunately, EH fans might not have been persuaded and might have been turned off by Rosie’s “loud” persistence. But just think, there might have been middle of the roadies who, because of Rosie, didn’t just swallow EH’s spin hook, line and sinker….. I didn’t watch the show to watch a debate per se; I just realized that Rosie was someone, probably the only one on TV, who was not following the usual cable show pattern for discussing things. She wasn’t always “right” or “accurate”; but she called EH out for the spin and b.s. And maybe that planted a teeny tiny seed of doubt in the minds of some who ordinarily would have not asked questions of what EH was parroting….. And frankly that was enough for me. The sad thing for me too is that this Hoover woman might have appealed to me, depending on my mood that day, precisely because of what some of you are saying was her more palatable presentation. And yet on a good day, that’s not good enough for me. I don’t want pleasant professional pundits on the show. I can get that anywhere else……. So my hat is continually off in thanks to Rosie–for performing a public service by not participating in the charade that’s gone on for so long on cable shows where one side trots out their b.s. and then the other side and then the twit anchor basically says something like all views are equally right. And we all have our opinions and isn’t that wonderful…. As I write this I realize that it’s the same stuff I’ve been repeating ad nauseum here, and believe me, I bore myself as much as I bore anyone else. But like I said, for the record, I just want to offer what *I* got from Rosie’s time on The View: “Hold the phone, EH. You’re not trotting out the Fox one-liners on MY watch unopposed….” That’s what I saw her doing and saying…… All right, that’s all she wrote….. Go vote for Winnie. Good night, Gracie.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
New Linda, I agree with what you’re saying about Rosie. I agree with Rosie politically, etc, but I didn’t think she really played the role of ‘moderator’ and discussions ended up going off on tangents or with people talking over each other. I think Whoopi has a nice balance with providing opinion as well as moderating the discussion.
But I have to admit, I love when people disagree with EH. ;D
I also don’t think Sherri’s racist…I think she’s just a comedian trying to be funny with risque humor…I actually thought it was funny.
I cringe when Sherri talks about certain serious issues but I think she’s hilarious when she’s just being funny. Usually. heh
December 17th, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Sherri’s parenting is outrageous. 2 year olds need to be on a schedule more than anything. The worse thing you can do is wake a kid from a nap who needs the nap and then drag him out to go shopping–nothing he would have the slightest interest in. And this 2 year old has various disabilities so his sleep needs are probably even more important to help him focus, etc. Again and again Sherri makes comments that show me she desperately needs a parenting class. Not to mention moving across the country from him to begin with and only seeing him twice a month. What mother would do that? She said if he exhibited this behavior unrelated to her waking him from his nap, she would have punished him, but in this instance,she couldn’t because it was her fault. But no 2 year old should be punished for acting like a 2 year old in a store!
December 17th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Agreed, once again. Maybe she saw this as a photo-op; Shopping at a trendy tot place with her 2 y/o. But why would she wake up her baby to go there? Could it wait? Whoopi lost time chastizing (sp?) her. I hope she learned something.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Peaches,
I doubt you would have liked Hoover. You would have been able to see through her straw man’s agrument. To me, Hoover is more dangerous than EH because EH speaks to the choir. She DOESN’T have the power to change minds, only to reinforce those who already agree with her. Hoover, on the other hand, comes off as though she’s having an honest debate.
“EH fans might not have been persuaded and might have been turned off by Rosie’s “loud” persistence. But just think, there might have been middle of the roadies who, because of Rosie, didn’t just swallow EH’s spin hook, line and sinker…..”
All liberals, including myself, appreciated that about Rosie. It’s fine when R did that. That’s not what I was talking about. Rosie should have addressed EH (pointed out the faults in her agrument) and then let Rory speak, but that didn’t happen.
R interupted Rory numerous times to voice her opinion or expand on a thought.
Just because I agree with R’s point of view, doesn’t mean that I’m blind to the fact that R felt it was perfectly fine to interupt Rory when she agreed or when she wanted to add information and not for EH to do the same.
Rory should have been the only one to provide her opinion and the hosts simply should have asked questions.
“I don’t want pleasant professional pundits on the show. I can get that anywhere else”
Where????? All pundits are jerks. Anyway, R wasn’t a pundit.
“cable shows where one side trots out their b.s. and then the other side and then the twit anchor basically says something like all views are equally right.”
Who says that? I want to know because I’ve never seen that happen on cable. EVER. Okay, it could have happened once or twice w/o me knowing about it but it’s not certainly not an epidemic that it should be brought up as an agrument.
Now, hosts backing down to Republicans and not challenging them? Yes, that’s an epidemic.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
“But I have to admit, I love when people disagree with EH”
Oh yeah, me too.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Sharon,
I understand your sentiment, but the word racist doesn’t fit. At least not in the way you mean it.
She isn’t coming from a place that the black race is superior to the white race.
In fact, a strong agrument can be made that her “white people” stories are racist because they imply the exact opposite…that white people are superior. (white kids are better behaved, white parents don’t hit or scream at their kids).
That said, Sherri was just trying to be funny. She has no hidden agenda.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
New Linda:
There were many many posters and points collectively I was responding to, not just yours. I was not speaking directly to you. The things I complained about are things I’ve been a broken record about for many months, to the point where I don’t even see where it’s necessary that I repeat myself–but when it comes to Rosie, I sometimes do. I think your point-by-point parsing of what I posted and your tone in questioning what I said I’ve observed is rather rude and unnecessarily argumentative. I am not interested in participating in this sort of tit-for-tat with you. I stand by my observations of what I have seen on cable “news” shows. If you have not observed it, so be it. I made a big point of saying this is what I alone felt.
December 17th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
also don’t think Sherri’s racist…I think she’s just a comedian trying to be funny with risque humor…I actually thought it was funny.
I agree wholeheartedly
I think both Rosie and E.H. held their own.
I also agree that it really wasn’t the type of show for Rosie.
I myself like both Rosie & E.H.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:03 am
Great post Peaches! Does anyone have a link to the infamous Rory Kennedy appearance? The only thing that stands out in my mind is, Rosie telling EH to ask a question. I looked on Youtube and I can’t find it. I read Winnie’s recap of that show and it makes me dislike EH even more. How can anyone in their right mind justify torture?
“Elisabeth and Rosie got into another tiff during the discussion of the movie. Rosie told Elisabeth that she could ask Rory a question, but she couldn’t just “blather on” about whatever she wanted. Elisabeth tried to argue that torture should be allowed when when there is a high-ranking terrorist who has a lot of information that can prevent future terrorist acts. Rory Kennedy said that if the government is allowed to torture “a little bit,” then it will spread like wildfire.”
http://www.watchingtheview.com/march-20th-recap-ghosts-of-abu-ghraib-and-maude/
December 18th, 2007 at 12:08 am
“Sherri’s parenting is outrageous. 2 year olds need to be on a schedule more than anything. The worse thing you can do is wake a kid from a nap who needs the nap and then drag him out to go shopping–nothing he would have the slightest interest in. And this 2 year old has various disabilities so his sleep needs are probably even more important to help him focus, etc. Again and again Sherri makes comments that show me she desperately needs a parenting class. Not to mention moving across the country from him to begin with and only seeing him twice a month. What mother would do that? She said if he exhibited this behavior unrelated to her waking him from his nap, she would have punished him, but in this instance,she couldn’t because it was her fault. But no 2 year old should be punished for acting like a 2 year old in a store!”
Excellent points!
December 18th, 2007 at 12:12 am
Shannon,
You didn’t ruffle my feathers LOL! Actually you made a very valid point. Although Sherri was trying to be funny, maybe she should stop using White this and Black that. I’m sure every mother , regardless of their race can relate to their child behaving badly in a store, due to fatigue or just boredom.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:18 am
Peaches,
I didn’t think you were speaking directly to me. There was nothing in your post that indicated that you were. I responded to your post because I had something to add.
If you took offense to my tone, there isn’t much I can or want to do about that. When I wrote the post, in my heart, I was tone free. I have no emotional stake in this thread.
I haven’t watched TV in three months so maybe lots has changed within that time…such as pleasant pundits making their way to TV or media outlets that give equal props to both the Democrat and Republican side. From my TV watching days, most conceded to Republicans. Unless it was a show like Olbermann’s.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:33 am
If anyone is interested you watch the Ghosts of Abu Ghraib online.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17242.htm
December 18th, 2007 at 12:47 am
i’m looking for you, rain.
here’s a link to the following exchange but the video isn’t working on my end.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah4537.shtml
“You have to stop,” Rosie stated. “You can’t just blather on your opinion. She’s here to talk about that, ask her a question.”
“I asked her a question but before [she] answered it you said … ,” Elisabeth retorted before she was interrupted.
Now from my recollection, E asked a question and R took it upon herself to make a comment either before Rory was able to respond or interupted Rory to say something. That’s when EH went on a long tirade (in part commenting on R’s point of view).
December 18th, 2007 at 12:51 am
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: I saw the documentary. I know that children were held. But I think in the case of those held in cell blocks 1A and B that were, you know, high level terrorists with information. I mean, what do you do when you have a terrorists who has a ton of information? You know, like KSM, who just confessed. What do you do with him? Do you not use extreme measures?
ROSIE O’DONNELL: Okay, before you answer that, is it true that the person who was sent from Guant – Gitmo Bay, Guantanamo Bay over to Abu Ghraib –
RORY KENNEDY: General Miller
O’DONNELL: General Miller he was brought there because Donald Rumsfeld was not happy with the amount of information he was getting as a result of the torture techniques that they were doing there. So he went from the very successful torture place in Guantanamo Bay over to Abu Ghraib. Is that true?
KENNEDY: That is correct.
O’DONNELL: That’s true
HASSELBECK: Guantanamo Bay, also, so you know, as a whole, these were extreme methods that were horrific but I think to paint the entire Army’s way of getting information really for our benefit to be safe is not accurate. I think at Guantanamo Bay they are allowed to have their prayer time five times a day, they’re served meals, and what do you-
O’DONNELL: Okay Elisabeth, you have to stop. You have to stop. You can ask a question, but you can’t just blather on your opinion. She’s here to talk about that. Ask her a question.
HASSELBECK: I asked the question that you said before you answer I —
O’DONNELL: Because you’re trying to say that what happened was just based on these few bad apples and what her whole entire film showed is that it was orchestrated by our own government and condoned by them and you saw it twice. [applause]
HASSELBECK: I saw it twice.
O’DONNELL: Yes, so if you have a question, ask her.
HASSELBECK: I asked her the question.
O’DONNELL: What’s the question?
HASSELBECK: I asked her the question.
O’DONNELL: Should we torture people? She said no.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:54 am
Oops forgot to provide the link so you can rewatch it: http://newsbusters.org/node/11540.
I’m not going to rewatch it because I can’t stand EH’s point of view on this.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:07 am
Thanks New Linda,
The video clip from Access Hollywood won’t load. The transcript was good to read.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:31 am
Shannon, Meredith, and Elsie:
You guys nailed it where Sherri is concerned, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. Her remarks were racist in tone, but she’s not smart enough to be a racist. I literally cringe with embarrassment when she blurts out these ridiculous remarks. Can you imagine the explosive response if a white person said something equally idiotic like “I was shopping in a black people’s store and everyone in there was so quiet and well behaved.”? Bill O’Reilly came close, but too many blacks get a pass when they make these statements. Now The View’s new resident air-head strikes again with this nonsense. Her parenting sucks. She has revealed several times that she spanks her son, and this rankles me more than anything. This is a two-year-old with developmental disabilities, and his mother demonstrates on national TV that she doesn’t have a clue how to raise him. It’s obvious that Sherri is over the moon with excitement at how much money she’s making these days, and the thought of a “rich folks” store that she hasn’t sampled yet is too much for her to pass up. Poor Jeffrey.
December 18th, 2007 at 6:42 am
From the transcript, it only seems to me that Rosie was protective of the guest Rory Kennedy. I see Elisabeth was leading Rory with the rhetorical question, i.e. what to do with KSM [if not to torture for info]? Rosie interjected with what she learned from the documentary that torture wasn’t working in Guantanamo Bay but the general was sent to Abu Ghraib anyway to do his stuff. I don’t see how Rosie caused Elisabeth to throw out her opinion: “I think to paint the entire Army’s way of getting information really for our benefit to be safe is not accurate.” She essentially saying she’s against what Rory is doing with the documentary! I am glad Rosie shut her down after that.
December 18th, 2007 at 7:14 am
Kc,
I agree. It seems EH wasn’t there to ask questions, she was there to make a statement. I never thought of it that way, I went and reread the transcript and you are 100 percent right. Rosie was responding to what she saw in the film, EH was just throwing out talking points, no it isn’t a coincidence that I’ve heard pundits on the right say similar things about the prayer and food.
First of all these people are being detained without being convicted of anything, therefore they are not proven terrorists, they are detainees. If in fact they are guilty, why not let the courts decide. Can we really trust this administration to make that call…I know I can’t. So here you have people who could be innocent, being tortured, by a bunch of sick, twisted people. How EH can try to spin this is beyond me. That shows you what kind of morals she has. I find everything about her disgusting. I can see why Barry Manilow would say her views are dangerous.
December 18th, 2007 at 7:19 am
“She has revealed several times that she spanks her son, and this rankles me more than anything. This is a two-year-old with developmental disabilities, and his mother demonstrates on national TV that she doesn’t have a clue how to raise him.”
I wish someone would take her aside and explain that to her.
December 18th, 2007 at 8:09 am
[...] as he started “wailing.” Of course co-host Sherri Shepherd just talked about a similar screaming-in-store story yesterday on The View, in regard to her two year old son. Maybe that is why it seems like [...]
December 18th, 2007 at 8:45 am
How could anybody in their right mind think Sherri Sheppard is a racist? She is maybe a bit naive and a little ignorant about certain things, but to question her beliefs or character based on her views is totally preposterous. So far, I’ve found Sherri to be a very warm-hearted and geniune individual. She’s also a very candid person with a what-you-see-is-what-you-get persona. That’s what Bill and Barbara wanted on the show, isn’t it? She’s real! Granted she has a lot to learn about life in general (managing money, parenting, love, etc) but hey don’t we all? The great thing about her is, she’s so open about very personal things in her life and she always seems to welcome any advice given by others to improve herself. I’d rather have a keeping-it-real Sherri Sheppard over a phony EH any day!
December 18th, 2007 at 10:19 am
Beautiful post Tina! I totally agree with everything you said!
December 18th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Well Tina, I’m in my right mind, and I think Sherri acts like a racist. We just aren’t used to using the word racist with a black person, it’s usually reserved for white people. If you focus more on my point than whether you instantly agree on it or not, that might help. I’m saying that black people can make “rich white” people jokes and that’s okay. But if a white person was to make a “poor black” person joke, it wouldn’t fly. It’s not that complicated, but it’s okay if you disagree with what I’m saying. You can handle your own thoughts on things and I’ll handle mine. It’s no biggie if you don’t see it the same way I do. It might help the flow of conversation better thought if you accept the other people can be in their right mind even though they think differently than you.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:52 am
I just want to point out there is no such thing as a reverse racsit. Sherri comment was racial charged yes and I do thik african americans do get awa with racial charged statements but whites can and do in case get away with the same. i think if joy or osmeone had said i was in a black store and this and that happened as long as it did not come off as a judgement statement (it suckes as you expect) or (it was surprisingly good ala bill oreiley)
December 18th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Yes, I’m sure Sherri didn’t mean her comment in a derogatory or offensive sense. I think she gives a glimpse of what is on some African American people’s minds sometimes. Everyone has preconceived ideas about other racial/ethnic groups. You can’t really hide that fact! Sometimes it is great to talk about it and laugh and not sweep things under the rug.
I really feel she meant to be funny. Why would she work on “The View” if she was truly a vicious “racist”? I think people need to lighten up and not be so serious sometimes. So, I think this issue is over exaggerated if anything.
December 18th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
My Point Exactly– Thanks, Ken and Mibi!
December 18th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
lol Ken,I was nowhere near calling her a vicious racist, that’s taking the point a wee bit too far. I’m saying she’s ignorant and some of the things she says sometimes are racist. Do I care? No. Same as I don’t when Chris Rock calls whites crackers. I laugh. I laugh when people say trailer trash or white trash…because I am not perfectly pc. I’m saying that when a black person does something like that, it’s taken differently and they get leeway. A white person does it and it’s cause for a national alert, stop the presses. It’s just gotten silly. Back when I had AOL, they had a whole “Black Voices” section where black people were supposed to gather. That’s considered ok. What if it was “White Voices” There would be an outrage. It’s just a “meeting ground” when it involves black people, but it would be considered racist and flashback to KKK if it was white voices.
My point is that it’s just odd what is allowed and what isn’t. Who gets leeway and who doesn’t.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
I have to agree with Ken and Tina. I would have said the “exact” same things as Tina about Sherri.
Although I understand what I believe is the point of Shannon’s post. I think she’s saying there is a double standard. I think it’s good to discuss this type of thing. Because I’m positive she’;s not the only one with that feeling.
I’m sorry, but I feel like I mist also give my thoughts concerning Sherri’s parenting…I don’t think it’s fair to criticize Sherri’s parenting. There are many well educated, loving parents who choose to spank their children,..if she indeed does. It is their prerogative, and I wouldn’t call it bad parenting by any means.
I guarantee you that most parents have had to deal with a cranky, or wailing child, in a store or elsewhere at one time or another.
Many children have had to miss naps. It may be a mistake to take a sleepy 2 year old to a store,…but parents learn by mistakes.
December 18th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Regarding Margaret Hoover - gee, that was a really unfortunate laugh she had. I felt a bit embarrased for her.
Regarding EH and Rory Kennedy. What I don’t understand is why your American right wing Christian Republicans claim to have the ear of God and yet are war mongering, gun law supporting, torture supporters. I don’t get it. What do they think that God would support these views?
December 18th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Sandy,
williscript made a good point about Sherri spanking her son. “This is a two-year-old with developmental disabilities.”
Sherri should take that into consideration, before she decides to spank him.
December 18th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
“Regarding EH and Rory Kennedy. What I don’t understand is why your American right wing Christian Republicans claim to have the ear of God and yet are war mongering, gun law supporting, torture supporters. I don’t get it. What do they think that God would support these views?”
AMEN!
December 18th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
I just reread the Kennedy transcript and feel disgusted all over again at the way EH tried to shut down the conversation. She deliberately tried to monopolize the dialogue so that the topic would not be on air. It was then and there that I felt she was being schooled by Hannity in how to shut down war topics. Fortunately, Rosie was too smart for her and took her to task for the strategy.
I think the right wing pick and choose the testaments they want to believe. Take Jesus and put him in the Old Testament and they have their bible. They just jettison the whole New Testament, as it preaches too much turn the other cheek forgiveness.
December 18th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
“Chris Rock calls whites crackers”
I don’t recall Chris calling white people crackers. What he said in his act does back up your statement.
He makes a note that the black old men are racist and they are nice to a white man’s face. The moment the white man leaves, the black old man starts using the word cracker.
I just wanted to make that distinction because Chris himself isn’t calling white people crackers. He’s expressing why the most racist people are black old men.
December 18th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Elisabeth’s views on torture and the things she said that day [when Rory was a guest] make me dislike her more than anything else she’s ever said or done.
December 18th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
In regards to Sherry, is it possible that she grew up in mostly an all black neighborhood where maybe it was impoverished? If so, that may explain her uneasyness in entering hoity toity stores owned by white people where when she was younger, was looked upon as a shoplifter or a thief because of the color of her skin. She may also have experience with people looking down their nose at her for either her class and/or the color of her skin. This may be possible for comment on where she was nervous being in an white person owned store. (or she assumed so)
December 18th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Sherri’s family moved to a mostly white suburb when she was eleven. You can read about it here: http://www.watchingtheview.com/sherri-shepherd-interview-part-one-the-early-years/
December 18th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Thank you Winnie!!! I so wanted to be right but I was partially correct. Sherry did not live in an impoverished neighborhood but she and her sisters did experience alot of racism growing up. It appears alot of people looked down their noses at them and her sisters engaged in alot of fighting. Hearing the N word on a daily basis does make one weary of their surroundings and leary of people intentions. The racist kids in school learned of this bahavior from somewhere. Most likely their homes. Most of white people can not relate to those kind of experiences on a regular basis and cannot identify with her. Now I said most.. not all. So lets give Sherry a break on the racism since she has not yet arrived in the comforts of her skin and exuding confidence in her surroundings.
December 18th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
OMG that interview with Sherry is hysterical!!! her question to Christina Ricci was hysterical!! i laughed outloud for 5 minutes. Thanks again Winnie for the link.
December 18th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
I haven’t watched The View on a regular basis since Rosie left. I thought once EH went on maternity leave I would start back watching regularly. I enjoy reading the recaps and I will make a point to watch if someone of interest is going to be a guest. In any case, I really enjoyed Sherri when she was a guest host. The only sitcom I’ve ever watched her on was 30 Rock, and she is really good in her role.
She annoys me when she brings her “faith” into the conversation. That said,I thought the other day when she talked from a fans prescriptive, that she was very endearing. I then realize that Sherri is not use to being the so called “star”, she isn’t use to the spotlight and all the scrutiny that she’s under.
It would be like if you or I were suddenly put on center stage. She must learn to choose her words more carefully and she must also learn some tact.
Things she could get away with as Sherri the stand up comedian and Sherri the sitcom star, she can’t get away with as Sherri the view host. That’s the crappy side of fame. Which is why some get so jaded. I have my days where I like her and days were I can’t stand her. I think she’s still trying to find her way and her role on the show. I think if she’s true to herself and not trying to come up with a gimmick (resident conservative) she’ll be fine.
December 19th, 2007 at 12:30 am
Last week I visited the Sherri’s official site for the first time. I read comments on her message board. What I found was very tasteful posts. Whether someone agreed with Sherri or not, the posts didn’t have a hateful twinge.
I went to visit today and see what others had to say about her comments regarding the white people store.
Instead of her message board, here is what I found:
I really appreciate the well wishes and encouragements, but due to some of the negative emails & shocking graphics that folks have put up, I have to dismantle the messageboard. If anyone would like to contact me, they may write to Sherri Shepherd The View 320 W. 66th St. NY NY 10023
December 19th, 2007 at 12:37 am
The following is on her contact us page. I don’t know if that message was there last week or not.
Please use this responsibly. Rude, inappropriate, profane, or foul emails will be deleted and a complaint will be filed with your ISP. Let me Repeat that… I WILL trace your IP Address and report you. Think before you send email.
Does this mean you can’t disagree or express your outrage at something Sherri said? Absolutely not! We love spirited debates. Disagree all you want, just keep it clean.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Rainlillie - I agree with your views on Sherri. She’s hard to dislike but she annoys me when she talks about her faith. I’m still getting over her “nothing came before Christianity” utterance a few weeks ago. It seems like she tries to be open minded about other things though.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
“She’s hard to dislike but she annoys me when she talks about her faith.”
That’s pretty much the biggest problem I have with her too.
December 19th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
New Linda,
Thanks for sharing with us the information about Sherri’s official site. Dahh.. me, I didn’t even know or think about her having an official site.
It’s sad to know that some people would leave “shocking”, foul, emails or graphics.
but i guess I’m not surprised.
December 19th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Rainville,
Yes I understand Milliscripts point about Jeffrey being a child with disabilities, and Sherri taking that into consideration before spanking him. “It is a good point”, I agree.
I’m not an advocate for spanking, I didn’t spank my daughters. I found other things worked well for us. However for those who choose that, it is their prerogative as parents.
I don’t know what Jeffrey’s disabilities are, but I’m sure his mother,. or I hope his mother, takes those things into consideration before punishing him, whichever method she chooses.
It’s just that, “at least for me”, I feel it inappropriate to say that Sherri is a bad mother without a LOT more knowledge of her interactions with her son.
December 19th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Sandy,
You wrote Rainville (not Rainlillie) and Milliscripts (not williscript). For some reason, I can’t stop laughing about that.
Believe me, I’m not one to judge…I called Shannon Sharon, but your post gave me the giggles.
December 19th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
New Linda, It’s always great to have a good laugh. I’m glad I provided a few moments of enjoyment to you
December 19th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
andy,
I never said Sherri was a bad mother. I also think it’s a parents choice to spank or not to spank as it is a woman’s choice to abort or not to abort. I don’t believe in telling people how to raise their children. It’s none of my business. However, if Sherri’s son has a learning disability I can’t understand why she would spank him, and from the story she told, it was more or less him being tired. Not running through the store knocking things off shelves.
December 19th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Ooops I meant Sandy in the above post.
December 19th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Rainlille,
I sure didn’t mean to give the impression that I felt you said that Sherri was not a very good parent. I don’t believe you did or would do that. I was explaining that I agreed with your comment, #73
A few others made a “reference” to Sherri’s parenting, and thus is why I made my comment, #71