The View January 5th Recap: Hot Topics and Perez Hilton
Today on The View, was another “Day of Hot Topics.” Elisabeth Hasselbeck was absent, due to the death of her grandfather.
Barbara Walters whined again when someone in the audience said they loved Whoopi and Barbara told them it was not nice to say they only love one of them.
Barbara was happy to have had time off from working. Sherri Shepherd said that everyone was tired before break. Joy said they are lucky to have jobs, though, and happy to be back. She worked during the break doing stand-up. While on an airplane, the pilot said they were having a problem–a light went on the instrument panel–so they had to go back to JFK. Joy thought they were going to die. It ended up there were metal particles in the oil. She got back on the same plane, assuming it was safe now because it was just checked.
Joy talked about a car she had many years ago that was made by the British and was a bad car. A light went on and she could not afford to fix it, so she put a band-aid over the light. She called it the President Bush way of dealing with a problem.
Sherri was on an airplane and there was a man who looked unhappy to have to sit by her and Jeffrey. It turned out that it was Jeremy Piven, so she doesn’t know if he looked unhappy because of his high mercury levels. She did not say anything to him because she was worried Jeffrey bothered him.
Whoopi went to the NY Knicks game last night and sat next to Jon Stewart, who she doesn’t really know. He was with his son and was explaining the game to him. He told Whoopi that if he was annoying her to let him know. Jon said that he did the same thing with his own father and she was touched by that. Whoopi thought that families were a lot happier this holiday season and did not seem as annoyed with one another. Joy added that her father took her to the race track when she was a girl.
Barbara went to see Liza Minelli over the break and is impressed by the fact that she has been able to overcome so much in her life. She said that there are second acts in life and if you are in trouble you can put yourself back together.
As they went to break, they showed a clip from Brothers and Sisters , which mentioned The View. Calista Flockhart’s character was trying to prepare funny anecdotes to talk about on the show.
The next topic was Patrick Swayze and the interview that Barbara had with him. The interview will be an hour and also includes his wife. It will air Wednesday on ABC at 10:00 p.m. He has a new television show, The Beast, despite the fact that he has pancreatic cancer. Whoopi thinks that he continued working because work is life for performers like them and he could not wait around and needs to work for his own psyche. Whoopi thinks it would be the same thing for her. Sherri said that what performers do is very fulfilling, but those who don’t have fulfilling jobs would want to spend time with family or do other things they always wanted to do, rather than work. She also said that other people have to work even though they are sick for financial reasons. Joy said that she thinks people would want to do whatever they could to distract themselves from the fact that they are sick. Patrick also addresses what effect it has on him when he sees tabloids reports that he is near death. Barbara said that he is very angry about it.
Sherri said that it is similar to the way that Dick Clark continues to work and appeared on the Rockin’ Eve special, despite the medical problems that he has had. They played a clip. Joy said that he still looks 25. Whoopi said that we are not a nation that deals well with disabilities or illness and for him it is about moving forward.
Whoopi mentioned the death of John Travolta’s son and said that the press is already started to take him to task. Sherri said that he and his wife need a moment to breathe. Whoopi said that the press should back off and we don’t know what happened. Barbara said that to have this on top of the grief is terrible. Joy said it will serve to postpone his grief, which is not a good thing.
After the break, they talked about Illinois Governor Blagojevich’s appointment of Roland Burris to Obama’s vacant Senate seat. Barbara said that Senator Reid said he won’t seat him. Sherri said that Burris has the record to be appointed Senator; it is not like he has no experience. Whoopi said that if it is Blagojevich’s right and they haven’t taken him out of office, you can’t then say you don’t want this Senator. Joy said that didn’t Blagojevich just talk and that is free speech, so how can they indict him. Whoopi said that they have not indicted him yet.
Caroline Kennedy is being criticized for saying “you know” and being inarticulate. Sherri said that she would rather have a Senator saying “you know,” than having a VP who says “You betcha.” Whoopi said that being inarticulate should not prevent people from serving. Joy said that it is because President Bush was so inarticulate people have fatigue with inarticulate speech. They showed a clip of Kennedy’s interview. Whoopi said that Valley speech has gotten into the ether and this is what it became.
Eartha Kitt died recently. Whoopi did an impression of her in her honor. She was the first African-American catwoman. Joy said that because she spoke out against war in the past, it hurt her career and there were about 10 years that she could not get work.
Harold Pinter, a playwright, also died. Barbara said that he did not like America very much. Whoopi said, “Some days, neither do we.”
Sherri congratulated two Dancing with the Stars dancers for getting engaged: Karina Smirnoff and Maksim Chmerkovskiy.
A producer at The View had a baby over the break.
Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol had a son named Tripp Easton. They talked about whether they will get married. Barbara said sometimes it is nice to get married first, then have the baby. Sherri said that maybe they want to finish HS. Whoopi said the important thing is that they have a healthy baby. She then said “Mazel Tov” to them and then felt she had to explain what that meant.
Perez Hilton appeared on the show to promote his new book, entitled Red Carpet Suicide. Barbara asked him if he makes up his information. Perez said he is very professional gets information from friends, relatives, agents, and other sources. He admitted he can be mean sometimes, but said that Joy can be mean, too.
Lindsay Lohan and Samantha Ronson did not have a good New Year and were seen in public fighting each other. He said that he heard it from several sources and it was caught on tape for a portion. Whoopi said that she forgets who they are.
Nicolette Sheridan was spotted in Las Vegas with David Spade, and Perez noted that he gets all the hottest chicks. Perez said that he heard that Spade gets all the women because he goes in for the kill when they are ending a relationship and are needy and vulnerable.
Charles Barkley was arrested for DUI after being pulled over for speeding. He said that he was chasing a woman in another car because she had given him good oral sex the week before. Joy said that DUI arrests are not funny and it makes her angry because they could kill someone.
In his book, Perez gives tips on how to become famous. One of the ways is to die. Short of dying, you can “unleash your inner ho.” He said that Miley Cyrus did that this year. Joy jokingly asked him how she could get on his list of the greatest sluts.
Perez dedicated his book to Britney Spears because she is the “all you can eat buffet” of celebrity gossip news.
Barbara asked if he has ever been sued. He said that he has been and is not afraid of lawsuits because he does things by the book. He won’t print anything that he knows is not the truth.
Sherri said that he posts negatively a lot about Tara Reid, who is now in rehab, and asked if he felt like he contributed to her problems. Perez said that the drugs and alcohol are the reasons she is in rehab.
Barbara also asked if he is leaving John Travolta alone. He said he is not being mean to him and pointed out that he did not print pictures last year of Michelle Williams just after Heath Ledger’s death. He said that he won’t post pictures of Travolta and family in the Bahamas.
He thinks the biggest celebrity mess this year will be Lindsay Lohan.
In the closing moments, Whoopi complimented Joy, telling her she looks really good in her blue top and that “I would do you right here.”
The View, Perez Hilton, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Barbara Walters, Sherri Shepherd
January 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I’m sorry for the EH’s loss. But I did not miss seeing her at all. For a second I thought they were going to announce she’d no longer be on the show!
I guess Whoopi didn’t get the memo about how annoying almost everyone thinks the valley girl voice is.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Barbara Walters seems littler and littler every time I see her, and not just physically. Is it really such a big deal for an audience member to yell out that they love someone they came to see? This will probably be the only time they’ll ever get a chance to do it, and despite the fact that it’s slightly juvenile, it’s not harmful! Lighten up, Barbara! I don’t tune in to hear about your inferiority complex!
January 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Two things that happen today (to me) show how uncool and mean spirited this show is. One that they say the media is already taking John Travolta to task over the death of his son. What does that mean? I’ll have to watch the clip to find out the tone and how they meant it. Because if there is negative stuff in the media about what happened and they comment on that, they are just as guilty as the people putting it out there.
And along the same lines…having Perez Hilton on the show to just get more attention for the vile stuff he puts out there. Sites like his and TMZ and people feeding into them is what is making our culture go to crap.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I agree, ShannonP, it’s easy for The View to have Perez Hilton on and then to chastise him for what he does, but then why did you have him on the first place, if you are so disapproving of what he does? As Barbara said, it was to curry his favor, which they should know won’t work. I’ll at least give Perez credit for being able to dish on everyone equally.
Lala, I sense that Whoopi does the Valley Girl voice more now that it irritates people. There are updated ways to talk like teenagers that could be mildly entertaining for any of us who are currently living with them, but Valley Girl is not it.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:27 am
re:Perez Hilton on the view….He was actually on Martha Stewart before the holidays. That’s seems even more bizarre then having him on the view. It all comes down to money. And hoping by letting him promote on their show they’ll stay off his website. However, I don’t think his viewer demographic cares about the view ladies.
BW is a strange bird.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I missed Elisabeth on the show today. They certainly could’ve used her input on what I felt was immature dialogue. Joy’s and Sherri’s recent experiences on an airplane are certainly not newsworthy. Barbara kept saying she was not promoting Liza Minnelli when in fact she was. Whoopi’s valley girl sunk to a new low. Perez Hilton looked at Joy and said, “Well, you are mean, Joy.” I agree with him. She can be extremely opinionated on subjects while not being very well informed. Elisabeth at least brings interesting topics to the table.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Shannon, I think the m mentioning how the media will take the Travolta’s to task has to do with the religion they practice. I had the same thoughts when I read about the death; I remember because the news reports subtlety or rather pointedly mentioned Scientology.
On a talk show I listened to, they also talked about how the focus may shift, and sadly, I agree. I think the fingers will start to point and the blame game will commence.
It sounds like a good show today. Lots of interesting topics discussed. Might be because they had a break.
I loved reading about Jon Stewart w/ his son at the basketball game. Too cute.
January 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Also about JT’s son, there has been a lot of speculation apparently about whether he was autistic, and they were in denial about it. I frankly never heard that before. But I think that may be the type of media attention they were referring to.
I thought it odd that no one on the show actually expressed their condolences to the Travoltas–just went right to the media thing.
January 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
My condolences to Elisabeth on the loss of her grandfather.
But, I do have to say when she’s not present it seems like it’s a more relaxed atmosphere. They can all say how much they love one another but when EH is at that table everyone seems tense.
I don’t visit Perez Hiltons website but I have seen him on TV and he doesn’t bother me.
They didn’t discuss what’s going on in the Middle East, the Obamas moving to Washington, or Bill Richardson withdrawing his name as Commerce Secretary. I guess they’re waiting till EH, the political scholar, returns so she can get Hannity’s harrumphing out to the View audience.
Oh yeah, Barbara, not everyone likes you.
January 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
The banter seemed kind of flat to me without Elisabeth. Love her or hate her– she brings something to the table.
I think the media should leave the Travolta’s alone. They need to heal without having to deal with the curiosity.JMHO.
January 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
It annoyed me when Barbara was whining about people telling Whoopi they loved her and not everybody else. I wonder why it bothers her so much? Is her self esteem that low?
She acted the same way when Rosie was on and people would yell out they loved her(Rosie).
I just find it very petty for her to say something to the audience. She knew how famous Whoopi (and Rosie) is before hiring them, what did she expect? Not every audience member is gonna “love” everybody at that table. Sheesh!
January 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
the media should definitely leave the celebrity families who are grieving alone.
it is none of our business how parents choose to address an illness. it is their decision alone to decide on courses of treatments.
but, i have the feeling that there will be lots of tabloid speculations, exclusives, and late-breaking updates about this tragedy.
anyone who deals in the business of celebrity gossip and voyeurism is sleazy.
any news beyond movie premieres etc. as it relates to the “business” side is fine by me.
beyond that, any tidbits about who they’re dating, romancing, visiting, feuds between celebs, critiquing what they’re wearing, and what they eat or don’t eat on a daily basis needs to stop.
if we as consumers refuse to purchase tabloids, it will put the leeches out of business.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Stacee,
I also liked the bit about Jon Stewart and his son…it had heart and if we have to continually hear about celebs, a story like this is worth listening to.
Bern
I agree with you about BW. She has had an amazing career and it maybe time for her to let go and enjoy the success of her team. And if you’re out there Rosie, many of us love you…sorry Barbara.
susieq
I thought it was a very relaxed and enjoyable show…the content was there without the co-host’s usual frantic pace and urgency to be heard.
Heatherspeak
ITA
January 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I’m not a fan of Hilton’s either, but some celebrities bring the bad publicity on themselves. By going out drinking and getting into public fights or getting arrested.
I agree with your points Shannon. They should have just sent condolences to the Travolta’s and left the rest out.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
The View is in no position to take the “media” to task for how they report on celebs. They can be just as guilty as the tabloids. Over the past year they discussed Britney, Lindsey, and all the other scandal-ridden stars. And look at how many reality show stars they’ve had on as guests. Pamela Anderson, Denise Richards, Dina Lohan, Kim Kardashian, and Spencer and Heidi.
The View will discuss anyone and anything if they think it will get them publicity.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Glad to see the show again. Everyone seemed happy and in great spirits. I like hearing about their traveling episodes..many of us have had strange trips on planes and in trying to get somewhere in a hurry.
Bawa should just chill out..
Too bad about the grandfather of EH passing but gads it was pleasant today…no shouting, no cool-aid passing, no ill will. Let us have more like today!
January 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I agree 100% with Joy’s analogy of Pres Bush. Just put a band-aid on it and deny deny deny!
Other than that the show was boring.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
joey Says: “And if you’re out there Rosie, many of us love you…sorry Barbara.”
MY RESPONSE: Um, joey? Barb told me to tell you “it’s not nice to just say you love one person and not everyone.”
January 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
susieq Says: “The View is in no position to take the “media” to task for how they report on celebs. They can be just as guilty as the tabloids. Over the past year they discussed Britney, Lindsey, and all the other scandal-ridden stars. And look at how many reality show stars they’ve had on as guests. Pamela Anderson, Denise Richards, Dina Lohan, Kim Kardashian, and Spencer and Heidi.
The View will discuss anyone and anything if they think it will get them publicity.”
MY RESPONSE: So true, susieq! Great point!
January 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
#16 “Let us have more like today!”
ITA
January 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I thought today’s show was relaxed and fun. I enjoy hearing about their personal adventures….. From the airplane delay to the story about Jon Stewart, with his son. These ladies come into my living room 5 days a week and it seems only “fitting” that they share some of their private life with us.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
“As they went to break, they showed a clip from Brothers and Sisters.”
I wonder why they didn’t show the clip from “The New Adventures of Old Christine?” The clip was View related too.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
#16 “Let us have more like today!”
I was hacking away with my finger picking typing @ #21 and you were already “on-board” with the same sentiments.
ITA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Rain, I think we know why the “Old Christine” clip wasn’t shown. It was a swipe at Elisabeth.
As I always say, if you take the good publicity you have to take the bad publicity.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
susieq,
They did show the skit from SNL about the View without audio.
“As I always say, if you take the good publicity you have to take the bad publicity.”
I agree, do you know if there were ever clips of Tracy Morgan as Star Jones shown when she was on the View?
January 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Here’s the clip, Winnie posted it a few Weeks back.
http://www.watchingtheview.com/elisabeth-hasselbeck-mentioned-on-the-new-adventures-of-old-christine-video/
January 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
#15 susieq–
The View is in no position to take the “media” to task for how they report on celebs. They can be just as guilty as the tabloids
What do you expect? They are a tabloid show. Yes they touch on politics… but when they do, they dont talk about policy… they talk about personality…. anything celebrity is fair game on The View…. it is shameful.
What is the most embarrassing about what they do is, this show is supposed to be directed to women….. In my opinion, most women are a lot more intelligent than tabloid “news” If The View continues to subject all of us to the few that enjoy tabloid shows, then they wont stay on air much longer.
I feel the election got more viewers because of the information that was being put out. Now that the election is over, those same new viewers still want to be informed… they need to grow as a show to stay relevant.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Roger, when the View first started it had a different feel to it. Everyone brought something to the table. Now it’s just a mishmash.
Barbara likes to believe viewers are getting their news from them and if that’s true then we are woefully misinformed. It’s like one day they want to be “Meet the Press” and the next day they’re trying to be TMZ.
I’m assuming Joy, Sherri, and Whoopie were hired because they are funny (sometimes anyways). That is their purpose on the show. I’m not quite sure why Elisabeth was hired but I doubt if it was to be the political authority on the show.
The show doesn’t seem to have an identity. The only time it ever gets coverage is when something negative happens.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I disagree with Roger.
I don’t think most of The View’s audience cares about politics in the detailed policy sense. They got more viewers during the election because of the drama of it all. If they had just sat up there and talked politics in detail, I think the numbers would have dropped significantly. People tuned in to see if would they or wouldn’t they fight.
Most of the shows audience are stay at home Moms and housewives and a lot of them are more likely to pick up a tabloid magazine than they are a political magazine.
In most office environments, if you are all at lunch together and someone starts talking politics, eyes start to glaze over. But if you start talking who did what on some tv show or the latest celebrity gossip, people get animated.
Sites like Perez’s exist because that is the mentality level of a lot of Americans and the demand is there.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Thanks Winnie,
I didn’t see the show, but enjoyed reading the recap. Sounds like it was a good show, and they talked about several different topics.
I haven’t read the comments yet, but will do so.
I will make just a few from the recap.
I am very sorry for Elisabeth’s loss. I hope she was able to spend lots of time with her grandfather.
I want to see the Patrick S. interview.
J.T’s son. I’ve heard several things in the media concerning this. I think that is just terrible, or at least some of the things I’ve heard insinuated. I agree with, whichever host it was, who said, this family needs time to breath, and grieve. It has to be one of the most painful things in life to endure, the loss of a child.
Caroline Kennedy. I understand why people would rather hear a very articulate person speak. Especially one who is going to be a senator. that is far from the most important thing to me.
Congratulations to the View producer who had a new baby.
Bristol’s baby & their marriage. Yes it would have been great & best had they been married first, or before the birth. I have to agree with Whoopi; the more important thing is that the baby is healthy. I wish them the best.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
#28 susieq–
I’m not quite sure why Elisabeth was hired but I doubt if it was to be the political authority on the show.
I think Elisabeth was hired because she was a “fashion designer” She became political because of her relationship with Rosie. She is conservative, but she isnt knowledgeable.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Rain, I don’t ever remember anyone talking about Tracy Jordan playing Star on SNL. However I do remember Star hating Jimmy Kimmel. There was a guest (I don’t remember who) who said something about being on his show and Star said “I can’t stand him” with a scrunched up face. Apparently Jimmy had made fun of her in some way and she didn’t like it.
Barbara has talked many times about Gilda Radner making fun of the way she talks.
Sherri, Joy, and Whoopie I think wouldn’t care if someone made of fun of them considering they are comedienes.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
#29 ShannonP–
I disagree with Roger.
I don’t think most of The View’s audience cares about politics in the detailed policy sense. They got more viewers during the election because of the drama of it all. If they had just sat up there and talked politics in detail, I think the numbers would have dropped significantly. People tuned in to see if would they or wouldn’t they fight.
I totally agree with you about why people have come to watch the show.
My point is if they go back to the “tabloid news” show then they will lose those new viewers.
I also agree with you that if they change to a political policy show they will lose everyone too. I think most of the people that now watch the view want to be informed…. it doesnt have to be about politics, but it should be more substantive than did u see what she was wearing….. did u see who got in trouble…. What the Hell Wednesdays…..
Lets have more topical shows…. medical shows…. financial shows…. informative show about all kinds of subjects. It could become quite impressive.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Roger, I know Elisabeth was hired to be a fashion designer, but “fashion” and designer” are subjective words. LOL
I really think she was hired because TPTB wanted to get ratings boosts when she got pregnant and had kids. Sorry, that’s the cynic in me.
January 5th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
#23 Marilyn: Great minds think alike
January 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
“People tuned in to see if would they or wouldn’t they fight.”
I think you’re right. I HOPE that people who tuned in during the political discussions researched things for themselves. It would be a shame if the viewers counted on them for info.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
“fashion” and designer” are subjective words.”
January 5th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I’m personally tired of hearing about Sherri’s “Jeffrey” stories. She acts like she has no control over his behavior and instead of teaching him, she just avoids others around her. I’m not into the philosophy of “let kids be kids” in public. I think Whoopi might have mentioned the Jon Stewart story to indirectly show Sherri a positive example of parenting and polite interaction with others around you. Jon Stewart showed consideration for others and seems like a great dad. If Sherri doesn’t get a handle on Jeffrey soon, she is going to be in for a lifetime of power struggles and disrespect from her son. I wish some parents would realize that “no” is not a bad word.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Erika,
I totally agree.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Erika, I agree with you. From what I’ve watched, the kid has severe disabilities so I’m sure that contributes some…but she also just lets him be out of control. Maybe it’s guilt based. But now even when you click on Huffington it walks about Sherri’s take on the Piven thing. Maybe he is a jerk as it’s been reported. But I know if I was trapped on a flight with an out of control kid, I’d get pretty irritable myself. Especially when I saw that the parent wasn’t doing jack to stop it.
January 5th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Gosh, I guess I’m ageist, but I did not appreciate BWs cleavage. Although it looked better than those holiday bikini photos of Donatella Versace. Maybe it is a BG rule that there must be somebody with cleavage every day.
Come to think of it, I don’t have any lowcut tops. I think it was because I was the first of my cohorts to develop breasts; the last thing I wanted to do was draw more attention to myself. I’m so more prudish than the bits.
Perez looked pretty good, for him. I was happy he didn’t have his hair in that rooster’s comb that sadly seems popular in some circles now.
Did Joy say anything about her San Fran gig? I haven’t come across any reviews.
I giggled at the responding to a “you know” with an “I know!”
Huffpo has up a clip of Sherri talking about Jeremy.
We have to go cold turkey Winnie? I have to wait until tomorrow to see if they mention Obama selecting Leon Panetta as CIA chief?
Roger, the puzzle site you mentioned has an option to make your own puzzle from a jpeg or downloaded photo. You can make puzzles with the view ladies!
January 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Frankly….The show was boring.
More, boring, and more boring every day.
I grow weary. How many more chances shall I give it …?
January 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Diane,
I just read the recaps or I’ll watch if I’m interested in a particular guest
January 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
okay i just watch the vid why i have no idea but what up with no gaza talk not even obama move just deaths and sick celebs ( sorry ps but all for a pulg for bw) and not even richardson step down? maybe ther waiting for eh to feel better and return?
holla
January 5th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I read the Huffpo article and comments- seems like most agree with us.
I watched part of today’s show, but missed Perez telling Joy she was mean too. How did she react?
Not to keep doggin’ on Sherri, but why would Perez Hilton be responsible at ALL for Tara Reid’s problems??? She doesn’t have to read his blog. I never hear about him and I don’t visit his site. I liked his response.
I used to be into TMZ, even before their T.V. show, and I was one of those people interested in Britney’s life for some reason. Luckily, I got over it. She keeps making good dance music though. I don’t like the idea of celebrity worship.
January 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Isn’t Ann Coulter supposed to be on next Monday? I wonder if she’ll sit at the table or just be interviewed.
January 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Rain , good idea.
Mibi ,you are so right. And for a day of “hot topics”. They barely could fill the one hour with anything but. A brand new year, and 9 minutes covering two airplane stories…?
This is not an original idea - I repeat the accurate observations so many of you have said about the growing weaknesses of The View.
They need a major over-haul. Production, cast, the set, regular segments, even the font on the opening credits needs a new look (hope that makes some of you laugh).
Geez, its a new year - even Oprah had a fresh perspective for her first show of the year; and an enticing week long promo of interesting shows that will try to loop viewers in .That’s one reason why her show is so successful. She knows when to ‘re-tool’.
January 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Erika - I think that I once heard Barbara say (within the past 2yrs or so) that she would not have A. Coulter back on the show as she was on once. ) You might be thinking “Good Morning America” where I think Coulter-geist will be swooping next week ( this week?) on her broom and worn out little black cocktail dress to promote her latest hate spew that happens to bound with a book cover in a once every two year effort to revive what she perceives as a career.
whoa, whoa, Diane, don’t you get started now , girl.
;0)
January 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Diane, I just googled and couldn’t find anything saying AC was coming on the View, but I read it on a thread here last week.
I can’t stand her either, but I would definitely watch, especially to see EH’s interaction with her.
January 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
#49 Erika–
Diane, I just googled and couldn’t find anything saying AC was coming on the View, but I read it on a thread here last week.
I saw that on a thread on here too…. said Ann Coulter was gonna be on next Monday… a week from today with some book or something.
I remember one day when EH was added to a list of republicans that included AC…. Elisabeth freaked out…. said I am nothing like her…. well Elisabeth… you are almost her clone….. the both of you have the same “Democrats cant do anything right” attitude…. Like it or not, you 2 are alike.
If AC will be on the show…. that will be the quietest that EH will ever be seen.
January 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Diane Says
“They need a major over-haul. Production, cast, the set, regular segments, even the font on the opening credits needs a new look (hope that makes some of you laugh).”
ITA… for some reason the terrible production values just make me crazy. I feel insulted that they believe we don’t get how cheap the set is; I repeat that it looks to me like an unfortunate accident involving pepto bismal and a bad Merlot. The interview couch looks so very uncomfortable and I truly believe that making their guests feel at ease is the last thing on their agenda. The ratings surge that came with Rosie and the election will certainly wane if the producers don’t come up with a new direction and style.
They should take pointers from the staff at “The Ellen D Show” and “The Bonnie Hunt Show”. Both have great writers and seem to understand both the talent (Bonnie and Ellen) and the demographic they are appealing to appealing to.
I must say though that I enjoyed the tone of today’s show…no hysteria and constant interruptions…
January 5th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Don’t know about A. Coulter on The View, but just read on that the Today Show cancelled her appearance this week due to pressure from sane people:) Although she will be on the Early Show tomorrow—the just lost me as a sometime viewer.
So glad to hear that today’s View was calmer. Not hard to see why.
January 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
“I think Whoopi might have mentioned the Jon Stewart story to indirectly show Sherri a positive example of parenting and polite interaction with others around you.”
Yeah, I didn’t think about until now. Whoopi rarely discusses children in a ‘touchy feely’ kind of way. She sure wanted to make a point to Sherri, without seeming too confrontational. :0
January 5th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Oh, and I wonder if Sherri sat Jeffrey next to Jeremy, or if she had the sense to sit next to Jeremy and tend to Jeffrey without much disruption to others.
January 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I wasnt gonna say anything about Sherri and her little boy, but since it was brought up again Ill toss in my 2 cents.
Sherri is allowing her son to walk all over her just like she wants us to believe that her husband did too. Remember when her son told her that he was the boss and she gave in?
Im probably out of line here… but that never stopped me before
Sherri brought up this other guy that was on her airplane…. he didnt say anything, but he was still pointed out by name. If he would have said something along the order of “could you settle your kid down” she would have still talked about him… but she would have been “outraged” that he would scold her child…. the rest of the mothers on the panel would have agreed with her too…. along with some on this site as well.
In my opinion, when she talks about her “family” moments, she tells stories about bad parenting.
My question is this…. When an outside person says something to someone showing bad parenting, ie. a child acting up and not being corrected, why is that person treated like a bad person just because they said what everyone else around them is thinking?
January 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
oh… The Jon Stewart story was a great story.
That was good parenting no matter how u look at it. I always thought he was a good celebrity, now this story shows that he is a good man.
January 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Joey Says:
” The interview couch looks so very uncomfortable and I truly believe that making their guests feel at ease is the last thing on their agenda. ”
I agree about the awful interview couch. Not only is it very hard and uncomfortable….. there have been a few times that the chairs have tipped over. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to fix these minor problems. I think I heard someone say, on the view, that the stiff couch keeps the guest from slouching.Does this make any sense when there is liability involved? Geeeezzz, I sound cranky tonight. Sorry.
January 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
It’s easy to be critical of some one’s parenting skills…I’m sure Sherri is doing her best and I think her honesty is comforting to many mothers who are walking in her shoes. Travelling with a wee one is a challenge for the best of us…all the tricks of the trade can’t turn a babe into a seasoned traveller and gosh we were all babes once and hey hopefully being happy and excited was part of it.
January 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
#57
Oh Marilyn
You don’t sound cranky, you sound real. I keep thinking about the money the executive producers are saving at the expense of their guests and their audience…kind’a sad. I would tune in more often if there was a segment called “How to Design a Beautiful (or acceptable) Set on a Budget” and another one called “How to Interview Guests and Deal With Your Co-Hosts Using Manners and Keeping Your Dignity”.
January 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Okay, I came on here tonight to see if anyone else is as annoyed as I am with the fact that Sherri has no control over her son and thinks that it is funny. She is in need of some serious parenting classes! I cannot think of anything more irritating than being stuck on a plane with an out of control child whose parent pretends not to notice. That is unexcusable. Her child has no home-training! Why does she expect him to act any differently in public? If you can’t control your child’s behavior to some degree, then you should stay at home until you can. The situation that she described (and other situations she has told about before) reveals that she has no clue what to do with her child and it does not seem that she is trying to do better because she is still letting the child control her. If he is constantly embarrassing her in public, do something about it, because its not funny!
Oh, and I am a mother of two who has had to travel alone with my two kids on a number of occasions, and I would have never allowed them to disrupt someone else’s trip. While they may be no angels at home, they certainly know how to behave in public!
January 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Kaylee
I travelled a lot with my son and until he was about four it was an unpredictable journey. He was generally easy-going but as with all of us he had his moments. I can’t tell you how grateful I was to the ‘many people’ who offered a helping hand when things weren’t going so well…it meant so much to me and I know my son benefited from their generosity
January 5th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Sorry that should read Kaytee
January 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Yeah, having kids myself, I totally understand unpredictable kids and crying babies, even toddlers who are just unable to sit still (they really hate the ear popping thing on planes). You are right, its just the right thing to do to try and help these parents, I have been on the receiving end of some very nice people who felt sorry for me traveling alone with 2 kids. But what is not acceptable is when a child is acting up and the parent does nothing to try and quiet the child. Sherri herself admitted to ignoring her child’s behavior and hoped no one else would notice. And with her this is not an unpredictable incident. This happens everytime she is out with little Jeffery because she comes back on the show and laughs about how he disrupted some event or plane ride. She should instead try to find a way to occupy her son’s time and install some type of disciplinary routine in his life because it does not seem like she has a consistant plan or its not working with him at all. I am not trying to slam Sherri, but the “Jeffery was out of control” bit is not funny anymore to me, kind of like Whoopi’s valley girl voice. But that is just my humble opinion, didn’t mean to offend.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I agree Sherri has no control over Jeffrey.
I think it is funny that the driver left without her, because they were taking too long.
Now you know, the driver probably waited forever due to the relationship she has with Barbara, but finally left.
Sherri doesn’t have him enough to learn how to control him.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
do either of you have kids with special needs? they can be very difficult to deal with and very much unpredictable. You are only going off of what Sherri tells us in her little anecdotes and I’m sure she only shares what she feels she can turn into a joke, but you dont live her life, how do you know you could do better. I’m not saying shes and all star mom, but get off her back.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:11 am
I think it’s beneficial to the child to have some type of discipline. Mainly for safety reasons. I don’t know the degree of his disability, but if she can’t handle him in public , perhaps she should hire an assistant.
Some of the things she claims he says to her sounds like he’s a very wise child. Like when she said he asked her “who is the boss here?”
If she doesn’t want criticism, perhaps she shouldn’t talk about these little incidents on national TV. She put it out there and people are responding.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Very true, Rainlillie! To everything you said. Now, I know it’s hard to handle toddlers in any situation, but when in public, you just don’t let them loose and “let them be kids!” For the kids’ sake, and the sake of others.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Before I had my son I was “one of those folks” that would roll my eyes and think smugly to myself “when I am a Mom no way am I going to put up with such and such a behavior”, and people just don’t know how to parent and would on occasion really show my ignorance and would say something obnoxious that “everyone else was thinking.” Thank heavens I didn’t get as good as I gave when I had my son. People were helpful and friendly and when I would offer an apology for my son crying or misbehaving remarkably people were kind and said, there is no need to apologize, or relax I have 3 boys, or offer to carry something for me so I could tend to my child. I now pay that kindness forward. I will never forget this recently while standing in line at the grocery store there was a woman in line behind me with an arm full of groceries and a screaming toddler, I was in a hurry, my son was with me and was ready to go and I really didn’t want to swap places with her in line. But I did so she could put her groceries down and tend to the child and she seemed frazzled but thanked me quickly and picked up the girl and as the cashier was ringing her out she looked at me and said thank you, I’m sorry. I said no problem I have a son, I remember dreading going to the store. And she said this is my niece and my sister just passed away and she misses her mom and we have a house full of guests coming and I don’t know why I didn’t get a cart when we walked in and ran thru a flustered list of what she had to do yet and concern about her niece and thanked me again. Then she paid and walked out before I had a chance to say sorry for your loss or anything else. My son just looked at me and said Mommy it’s true what you tell me, you never know what people have on their plate. I get it now.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:06 am
What a sweet story. And what a great philosophy to impart to your children! In our too much me, me, me society, sometimes it is not about you.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
#68 misslingdow–
Before I had my son I was “one of those folks” that would roll my eyes and think smugly to myself “when I am a Mom no way am I going to put up with such and such a behavior”, and people just don’t know how to parent and would on occasion really show my ignorance and would say something obnoxious that “everyone else was thinking.”
Yes I know Im “one of those folks” that dont have a “wee one” and that Im just “showing my ignorance”, but Im gonna say this anyway.
There is a HUGE difference between someone struggling with a stressed out child, (the lady in your story) and a parent ignoring that their child is misbehaving and hoping that the problem will correct itself (Sherri’s story)
In your story, the lady needed help because she was doing the best she could, in Sherri’s story, Sherri needed to be taught, if not shown, how to be a mother.
You dont have to have a child to understand the difference between the 2 stories.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
# 68 Misslingdow,
Thank you. What a great story, and a great reminder, that we may not know what it is like in someone else’s shoes.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
“There is a HUGE difference between someone struggling with a stressed out child, (the lady in your story) and a parent ignoring that their child is misbehaving and hoping that the problem will correct itself (Sherri’s story)”
I have to agree with that. I spent Christmas with my niece who is three and her parents for whatever reasons, won’t discipline her. She kicked one of my male relatives in his privates. Hit her brother in the eye with a toy car and refused to put her coat on when her parents were ready to leave.
She even gets out of her car seat while my sister in-law is driving. It’s a very unsafe situation. When my mother approached my brother about it, he made excuses. My mom won’t even babysit her. Children need discipline just as much as they need love.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
misslingdow,
Your story sounds like something that happened to me years ago with my son. Very nice.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
No 1 screams “we love u BW” bc no 1 loves u. you’re very annoying.
go retire & take care of cha cha & push peas around your plate.
@22
Perhaps bc NAdvChrstine is on cbs?
But they show NBC’s SNL clips so I dont know y they ignored the CBs mention.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Again, there’s nothing wrong with a parent struggling with their kid(s) in public. Been there - done that. I have also received help from total strangers and I would also reach out to anyone struggling with little ones. But to ignore you child’s behavior and pretend not to notice that he is ruining everyone else’s day is not acceptable. And this is clearly what Sherri has said that she does. She does need help. I was not aware that her child had a disability, that does shine a different light on the subject.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
@kaytee
Sherri does have help.
Of course Sh was attentive 2 her child. Im sure she did attempt 2 calm him down but after a while she let him scream. S/t it is best 2 let a child tire themselves out.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Sorry about putting this on 2 threads…. it belonged here in the first place.
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I want to say sorry for being so harsh about parenting. Not having a child, Im sure I have missed out on many joyful and painful moments that most of you have endured.
I would never mean to belittle the experiences that you have enjoyed with your children. Im sorry if you felt that I did that.
I suppose that I feel like I can say here things that I was not allowed to say to my sister or my brother. I feel that both of them made mistakes with their children, but it wasnt “my place” to tell them what I thought… I was also dismissed by them because I didnt have kids. They made excuses for misbehavior on medical reasons, and by saying things like…. they are so young they dont understand, but declined to use “teaching moments” to help them understand.
I could go on but it would just be rambling…. so I just want to say…. Im sorry if I offended, it wasnt my intent.
January 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
lilkunta,
Well I’m glad you seem to know what Sherri did, I can only go by what she admits to on the show. I have no problem with crying children, I have had my own. I do have a problem with parents not trying to control their kids at all, and totally ignoring their bad behavior in public. It does go on - from the grocery store aisles to the airports. And Sherri lays it out to the television audience that she does it also.
For the last time, (I will not commit on this subject again) there is a huge difference between a parent struggling with their kids in public and a parent who pretends not to notice that their child is out of control and tearing down the place! I don’t know if Sherri intends for her recounts to just be funny or if she is telling the truth about her inaction. But in her stories she always tells of her inactions and I just don’t think letting a child do whatever he is doing until he can’t do it anymore is the right answer, because he will continue doing it in the future. Again, these are only my opinions on child rearing, I do understand that everyone has their own way of raising their kids. So lets just say “to each his own”!
January 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Roger,
Parenting is the hardest, ..yet most rewarding job there is, IMO.
I think you are lucky. In having these experiences with your siblings and their children, it I’m sure gave you some insight into parenting children. Perhaps they didn’t make use of teaching moments, but you had “teaching moments”. That will no doubt be helpful to you someoday, if you should have children.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
I’m on the right thread now, so you won’t believe what happened to me today in the grocery store. A guy walks in right after me at our local, little grocery store and says to his kid, “We’ve never been in this store before, so you have to stay with me.” My first thought is, “NO! The kid has to stay with you in any store because he’s yours, not mine or anybody else’s who happens to be unlucky enough to have chosen right now to shop.”
Do I even have to tell you that the kid (all of three years old) is up and down all the aisles without the dad? Once I see an old, blue-haired lady try to direct him back to his dad one aisle over. Then, the kid is going to walk out the automatic door, but decides instead to stand in front of the door that some unsuspecting moron is going to use to get into the store and the kid is going to get knocked over at which time, surely the father will appear and be completely mad about poor junior and his head wound from the mean, old stranger who wasn’t looking for a three year old on the losing end of the in door! So, I tell the kid not to stand there and to go find his father. The father sees me as he comes down his aisle and makes a comment to get the kid back to his side, but says nothing to me, which makes me think that maybe he’s embarrassed. But not two minutes later, here’s the kid again, up and down every aisle his dad isn’t in! When the two of them were together the dad was all, “That was a really great throw to get the bread in the cart” and “Hey, buddy, grab another one…good job”! OMG! Try parenting! It’s hard, but it’s what you signed on for when you had a kid! Millions have done it! It’s not rocket science!
January 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
ya know bern….. you should have directed him to this thread…. obviously we all could have given him a “teaching moment”
yes… that was a bit snarky wasnt it
January 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
#79 Sandy–
I think you are lucky. In having these experiences with your siblings and their children, it I’m sure gave you some insight into parenting children.
Thanks Sandy… I think you might be right.
If I ever get the privilege to get with my life partner and have kids, I think Ill be a good dad. Ill be sure to thank all of the “outside help” that I receive.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Hi guys I posted this on today’s thread…I’m not really sure where I should be…oh well
One of the things that bothers me the most is when parents put their children in situations they don’t need to be in. For most toddlers, symphony concerts, theatre presentations, most movies and fine-dining are just a few of the things that are inappropriate for the wee ones. When they act out there they are truly interfering with other’s enjoyment.
My son loved eating out but he soon learned that poor behavior meant certain removal from the restaurant, even if the meal had just been served. He also knew it meant staying at home with a sitter the next time we ate out; it didn’t take long for him to get the picture and dining out is something we continue to enjoy and share. We have had several concert and theatre experiences ruined by people who think that a three year old might enjoy three hours of Mozart or a serious drama. As they get older they can, and should be, exposed to a wider range of situations but it should be for them and not for the parent’s convenience.
Travelling with a babe is often unavoidable, and tired cranky overexcited kids are part of the package…but when I have saved up my few pennies and waited months to dine out in a great restaurant I resent my time there being disturbed by a four year old who would prefer to be at home with a PB&J sammie or at Micky Ds.
Age appropriate activities are very important and help kids feel successful.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
One of the things that my children have heard time and again over the years is the following:
“Honey, you are not the only person on the planet, so please remember the rest of us and act accordingly.”
I think that sums up the parenting thing. (Yup, I’m Whoopi. I got it all figured! Yeah, right!)
January 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
very well said Joey, I wholeheartedly agree!
January 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Roger,
I’m sure you would make a great Dad…being a parent is hard but it is really wonderful as well.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
IM gonna get scolded for posting on both threads….. but Ill watch out from now on.
#83 Joey–
That is a very good point.
This just came to mind….. How would it be accepted if a couple of adults came into a children’s program…. drinking, cussing, acting like adults, ignoring their surroundings.
I think that most parents would freak out, talk about how bad these people are acting around their children.
That might be a little extreme…. but is it really all that different?
Ill be good now.