The View May 27th Recap: “Hot” Topics
They started the day on The View talking about what they did for Memorial Day weekend (yesterday’s show was prerecorded). Joy Behar gave money to a man collecting for veterans. The man was a Vietnam Vet who suffers from Agent Orange exposure and said that he hasn’t voted since Vietnam because he doesn’t trust politicians. He also said that America never wins a war against people who don’t wear uniforms. Elisabeth Hasselbeck said Memorial Day is a thankful day, in addition to hearing sad stories. She said that we can’t thank them enough for their service. Sherri Shepherd wanted to hug all the sailors in town for Fleet week, but settled for saying “thank you” to all of them.
Elisabeth had a “staycation” and went to the park. Her fun was interrupted by a “1000 year old man in a black speedo” who chose to sunbathe near them. Sherri went to see her friend sing at Carnegie Hall. She had never been to the opera and she fell asleep. Joy told her to watch Raging Bull and she can hear the beautiful arias from operas. Whoopi told Sherri said that it was a concert piece, but not a full opera.
Sherri Shepherd announced that she will be co-hosting the Daytime Emmy Awards with soap star and former Dancing with the Stars contestant Cameron Mathison. Cameron came out on stage and the audience screamed like crazy. The ceremony will be on June 20th. Sherri asked Whoopi if she had any advice. She told them that the people in the audience want to know who won and it is their show, so to keep it moving. Elisabeth said that Cameron and Sherri should do a dance number on stage.
Sydney Pollack and Dick Martin both died over the weekend. Joy said that a young newswoman called Pollack’s best-known film “The Way We Are, which shows something about the passing of time.
Sarah Ferguson is mad because of tabloid photos of her 19-year-old daughter in a bikini. The accompanying headline criticized her size and said that she needed a sarong “for our sake, as well as hers.” Elisabeth said that a woman made the comment in the tabloid and that is wrong when she should celebrate womanhood. She said it is “repulsive.” Whoopi said that people should leave her kid alone, even if she is 19. Elisabeth said it is hard for young women to have confidence in themselves. Sherri said it is a contradiction because women are criticized for being too thin, too.
Joy said that female self-hatred is predominate and we hate fat in this culture, whereas it used to be a sign of status. A study revealed that women would rather have cancer than be fat. Elisabeth said that people always think they are fat, even if it doesn’t have any relationship to their appearance. Sherri said that she hates trying on jeans in her size that are still too tight. Joy said that she doesn’t like to be sexually assaulted by her clothing. Whoopi said, “Get it where you can.” Whoopi said that people should stop buy magazines that support the notion of thin women and wait until they put real people on covers of magazines. Joy said that play “Fat Pig” is about a man who dumps a woman he loves because his friends think she is too fat. Whoopi said that we have made our culture so that it is not acceptable to weigh more than 102 pounds. Joy said that she is getting acupuncture to suppress her appetite or else she will get bigger and bigger. She is doing it for both looks and health reasons and said that she is just as guilty of being into the notion of being thin.
A 12 year old girl has been banned from playing on the boys team. They think the parents and boys in the league don’t want her on the team because she is better than them. Her teammates want her on the team because she makes their team better. The league said that she cannot be on the team because there is a rule against having mixed teams. The girl wants to be the first female in the NBA. Elisabeth said that if they allow it, the boys might be able to challenge the girls and take away their spots. Whoopi said it is “bananas” because if you are good enough, you should be able to play. She said that we don’t accept women as basketball players or football players. Sherri said anytime she seems females playing football, they are weighing lingerie. Joy said that girls like dolls and boys like trucks, but doesn’t know if that is cultural or genetic, adding that her daughter never liked dolls. Sherri said that Jeffrey threw a doll across the room and started playing the truck. She would have taken the doll away had he picked it. Sherri said that if she wanted him to be girl she would give him the doll. She would let a little girl play with a truck, however.
Joy said that everyone talks about everyone behind their backs. She went to a lunch yesterday and someone said that gossiping about your friends helps you learn about yourself. You can use others as a mirror to yourself. She isn’t talking about being mean, like saying someone is fat, but criticizing their behavior. She said it is annoying to talk to someone on the phone who never lets you get a word in edgewise. Whoopi puts the phone down and does things around the house and periodically comes back and says, “uh, huh.” Sherri had a friend who always has to top someone with her story that is worse. Elisabeth said that everything annoys her.
Elisabeth put her six-month old in a timeout to make Grace feel better. Grace took Taylor’s side and wanted to know how she could put him in a timeout. Whoopi said that she used to be Grace’s whole world and now she is only part of it.
Christian Siriano, winner of Project Runway, is designing Whoopi’s outfit for the Tony Awards. He appeared on the show and brought some options for her.
The View, Sherri Shepherd, Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Cameron Mathison, Daytime Emmy, Tony Awards, Project Runway, Christian Siriano
May 27th, 2008 at 11:10 am
I thought Sherri sounded extremely ignorant today when she said she’d take the doll away from the boy if he started playing with it and give him the truck. And she went on and on about it.
She whines and moans about how a good man is hard to find, one that will treat her right…well you know where I think that all starts? Mom’s like her training them when they are young to do BOY things…trucks, sports, don’t cry, be a big boy etc. Then surprise surprise when they turn out to be men that can’t express themselves and are rough around the edges, the same women complain.
If a kid wants to play with a doll, who the heck cares?? Quit taking away kids natural instincts and curiousity and creativity just to fit your image of what a little boy should or shouldn’t do.
I had to go watch a clip of it online just to find that part because after reading Winnie’s recap I had to see if she really was that ignorant or if it just looked that way.
May 27th, 2008 at 11:53 am
RECAP: Whoopi said that people should stop buy magazines that support the notion of thin women and wait until they put real people on covers of magazines.
RESPOSNE: Like perhaps magazines that have a cover with a woman who trained like an NFL professional, with the help of a trainer and nutritionist (I think) and babysitters, to get the weight off after her second baby?
May 27th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Sherri was all kinds of fool today. Besides the ridiculous fear she has if her son wants to play with a doll, (but it’s ok if she has a daughter that wanted to play with a truck) she was so annoying when talking about the opera she saw, waving her arms around as she put down opera singers and poorly imitated their singing. The icing on the cake, when asked what was the name of the show and she says ‘I dunno, some kind of rockweeum’ Yes that is how she pronounced requime.@@
Whoopis looks of exasperation as Sherri made a fool of herself were justified.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
#1-ShannonP
#2-Lajet
May 27th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
From the recap:
Elisabeth put her six-month old in a timeout to make Grace feel better
WTH? How do you put a 6 month old in timeout?
Was that a joke???
May 27th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
WTH? How do you put a 6 month old in timeout?
Was that a joke???
Stacee..
I was just going to post about this.. I think she has gone mad, putting a 6 month old in time out so she can get on Graces good side? What is wrong with her? If I were her, I would be embarrased to tell the stories she tells. She sure comes across completely inept when it comes to parenting.
I don’t like how she always talks about ’sides’ when it comes to her kids. Her relationship with Grace already seems so strained, imagine how much worse it will get when she gets older. I think she adores Taylor and seems very fulfilled with him, maybe Grace senses that.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
#1- ShannonP
#2- Lajet
#3- Vegas
I agree with all three of you.
DELETE #4… MY COMPUTER “SENT” THE COMMENT BEFORE I COMPLETED IT.
I disagree with The “boy” and “Girl” toy comments from Sherri.I raised two boys and one girl. In our household, The trucks and dolls were offered to anyone who wanted to play with them. My children had a Dad and they saw him help with household chores, change diapers, as well as see him climb in a truck and go “vroom vroom”. Why would they not be given the choice to “pretend ” play Daddy? In real life, Dad’s help care for the babies,etc.And in Sherri’s case, her son lives with his Father and has a role model.
I like Sherri, but today She seemed to be out of whack…. as #1-#2-#3 have already covered.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Poor little 6 mos boy of EH..in a timeout at his age. I’d like to put EH in a PERMANENT time out with tape super glued over her know it all mouth. She looked like Goldilocks today and acted so cutesy that I turned it off after Sherri announced she and Cameron will be hosting the daytime Emmy awards. I’m glad for Sherri..it’s good to see her get some gigs.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Stacee, I agree with the big wth on putting a 6 month old in timeout. And why doesn’t EH just try being a PARENT. She lets that little girl get away with way too much and have way too much power over her. That will bite her in the butt big time when she gets older.
Her and Tim need to be a team and parents. Not against each other, not a competition, but figure out what they need to do as parents and stick to it. No letting the kid get her way whenever she pitches a fit or manipulates.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I can’t believe EH’s warped style of parenting. Instead of giving Grace more positive attention, she gives the baby brother negative attention!?!?
I can already see their future relationship; I think when a child is given no boundaries and is given constant decision making powers and the child is treated like the mother’s friend, it’s hard for the child to respect the mother or feel secure.
May 27th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I did get to see the show today and enjoyed it. It wasn’t the best I’ve seen, but it wasn’t that bad.
I have to agree with everyone else, and very much disagree with Sherri concerning letting Jeffrey play with a doll, if he so wanted.
shannonP.. & marilyn are right on ,..in my opinion anyway.
To be fair to Sherri, she sure isn’t the first person I’ve heard say something like that. Although I’ve heard things like that mainly from men.
I would suggest that she read some good literature about childhood play and pretend, if she, or anyone, is concerned with what their child pretends or plays with.
As to Elisabeth’s story about pretending to put Taylor in time out,…I didn’t think it was all that big a deal.
As she learned, it didn’t work out like she wanted it to anyway.
Parenting is not exactly easy, there are trials and errors, and you learn.
I do agree with shannonh. though,
” No letting the kid get her way whenever she pitches a fit or manipulates”.
The longer you let that go on, the worse it will get as Grace gets older.
May 27th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I thought it was funny when Joy was talking about annoying friends that just talk and talk without a period in their sentences, lol.
#2 Lajet, thats a really good point!
Even if/when I disagree with Sherri on something, I still hate to see Whoopi give her the looks that she does. Its really unprofessional for her to roll her eyes or look uninterested.. and she literally nitpicks over EVERY little thing she says. Whoopi has to put her 2 cents in whenever Sherri gives an opinion, its really annoying.
May 27th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
#12 Stephanie, I don’t get what that is about either (Whoopi always rolling her eyes and talking down to Sherri). She does it ALL the time. That wouldn’t last two seconds if some person tried to do that to me. Why does Sherri put up with that? Sherri has to have a low self esteem of herself is she lets another person do that to her, as if she thinks what Whoopi has to say is more valuable than what she has to say or her opinion on something. It drives me nuts. She lets Whoopi cut her off all the time too. Whoopi was SO condescending during the Opera part, even to Joy, and also when Sherri asked about tips on hosting. My advice to Sherri is if you want to host an exciting show, don’t listen to Whoopi on how to do it.
Whoopi seems to have insight into things, but it’s hard to respect her when she is so condescending and self-righteous most of the time on the show.
May 27th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
“I think when a child is given no boundaries and is given constant decision making powers and the child is treated like the mother’s friend, it’s hard for the child to respect the mother or feel secure.”
Erika, excellent point!
“she sure isn’t the first person I’ve heard say something like that. ”
Sandy,
You’re right, my stepfather was like that with my brother. He was in the military and he really believed in the whole “macho man” type of thing. His biggest fear was my brother would be gay. Needless to say my brother is straight and my stepfather is my former stepfather, so everything worked out for the best.
May 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I was so offended by Sherri’s comment regarding weight. In speaking about the photo of Fergie’s overweight daughther she referred to “size two twigs”. I AM a size two twig/stick. I’ve worked hard through diet and exercise to attain my current body. At one time I topped the scales at 168 lbs (5′4)….I was FAT not healthy. Sherri rambled on and on about skinny girls; calling Fergie’s daughter healthy. Sorry Sherri, but you and the princess are FAT not healthy. Ask your doctor what all the extra weight does to your heart etc.
May 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Why would Sherri be opposed to her son playing with a doll? If her son is gay letting him play with a truck isn’t going to make him straight. Just like if he’s straight letting him play with a doll isn’t going to make him gay. As a parent, I wish for good health and happiness for my children. It wouldn’t matter to me if they were gay or straight. It seems Sherri has lived a very sheltered life.
May 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Stephanie and ShannonP, I totally agree! I think Whoopi is just a big bully to Sherri. Sherri is younger and not quite as established as Whoopi yet, and Whoopi totally takes advantage of that.
I also must say I’m glad Elisabeth tends to stand up for Sherri when Whoopi is beating her down time and time again. It’s so much easier said than done to stand up to a bully, especially with the whole world watching you be put down.
May 27th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
katerine congrats on your hard work to get fit but i do not think from what i saw fergie daugther was all that fat or unhealthy looking just had hips( if she was really fat she would not have been in a bikini) and i think that was what they were reacting to that she was just kind of avergae size 6-8 maybe (just guess ) and they are being so hard to her and that lead to people in the other end with people beign to small for there size. like people telling size 2 jeniffer love hewitt she to big.
i really think there needs to be a new term for telling people who are normal wieght (BMI 18-25 ) even if they are not a ther lean wieght they should work on a problem area ( tone up) with out if being assocaite with them being fat (which if they are in range the are not) . it would alos make it more meaningful when you tell a person who truly overweight to loss weigth becuase it not healthy
May 27th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Katherine,
I see where you’re coming from. I’ve been thin all my life and it is very insulting for people to call you “skinny.” I consider myself a “real woman”, just as larger women are also real women. Maybe they should use another term. I’m not disciplined enough to ever diet to stay thin, but I exercise to stay healthy.
May 27th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Katherine, the way you worded things…sounds like maybe you need to keep working on your own self-image and hang-ups about it and not take your perceptions out on other people, but that’s just my take on it.
I agree with Whoopi when she said women are behind this (see Katherine for example) and it’s our problem for buying into it and what the media does with people like the Princess and Britney Spears or whatever other person that isn’t really skinny.
If women didn’t buy into it, it wouldn’t be an issue.
When it comes to my body, my focus is not how I fill out a bikini, it’s on my ability and endurance levels. I’d rather any day that someone said to me “you are so athletic” than “you could be a model”
May 27th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
“Sorry Sherri, but you and the princess are FAT not healthy.”
My bad… I missed that part of your comment. That’s a little rude. Sherri looks fine IMO. Everyone is not meant to be a size 2. I think Star Jones looked better a little heavier. This notion that we ll have to be the same size is ridiculous.
May 27th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Katherine– Sherrie has worked very hard to drop a lot of weight. I bet she falls within normal range or close to it now. You should know first hand how hurtful those words are.
#21 Rain
Always good to hear from you- I was wondering where the rest of your post was from #19 LOL- I agree it was rude and not everyone can be a size 2. We should all strive to be healthy.
May 27th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Sherri has shown her ignorance (in my opinion) when it comes to kids and roles before. Remember when she talked about how she wouldn’t let her son wear a kilt for dress up in school? I forgot all about that until this talk today.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmSmOldgCgQ
I really just do not get where she is coming from on it. She is a walking contradiction in how she trains her kid versus what she wants in a man.
I would love it and encourage my kid to play dress up/play with dolls and have fun. I want him to have the personality he was destined to have, not the one I force him into with my rigid beliefs.
May 27th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
When will people ever learn that being a homosexual is not a life style choice. If anyone has ever watched a friend or relative come to the realization they are gay, and go through the agony of coming out, they would know that no one does it by choice! I have witnessed the experience in my family and with a friend. It is not a life style. It is an act of nature. Playing with gender based toys ain’t gonna cause it!
May 27th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Even if a boy playing with dolls and girls playing with trucks was a sign of there future dispostions taking the toy away would not change that kid. They would just be A. fustrated person they were ment to be or B. the person they were ment to be with a bad relationship with family. kids are who they are and yes you can shaped them in ways but who they are is not going to change. btw from EH stories Grace is going to be a little handful
May 27th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
misslingdow,
LoL! I was reading a little too quick. I like hearing from you too.
Random Musings,
I totally agree. My sister came out many years ago, and it wasn’t easy for her. She’s a lot happier now. She was born a lesbian, it’s not a choice she made. I STILL have relatives who think if she just met the right guy…
“I would love it and encourage my kid to play dress up/play with dolls and have fun. I want him to have the personality he was destined to have, not the one I force him into with my rigid beliefs.”
I agree, I also think Sherri’s upbringing has a lot to do with her views. My relatives are from the south and they are very conservative when it comes to gays and lesbians. I’m talking about the older generation. They really think like Sherri, If A boy plays with a doll or has long hair he’s going to be gay. I choose not to go around them, because I don’t want my children exposed to that type of ignorance.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
I agree with those that have expressed that saying someone is FAT, (Sherri, the princess or anyone) can be very hurtful words.
I don’t think anyone has to be a size 2 or 3 or 4 or whatever to look healthy and fit. One can be a bigger size and still be very healthy & fit. Everyone has different body types, with different frame and bone structures.
I too agreed with Whoopi when she said we need to get away from this.
# 24 & others, I agree completely.
# 26 rainlille,
As I said earlier, I too have come into contact with some who believe that boys playing with dolls will somehow make them gay, or make them “sissy’s”. As I said, it was mainly men that I have heard say that.
I grew up and spent most of my life in a large city in the Northeast, so that sort of ignorance is everywhere.
May 27th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Sherri is not fat! She’s lost a lot of weight in less than a year. She looks great! There you go Katherine, did that make you feel better? It’s amazing how calling someone else fat makes you feel so much bigger, isn’t it?
May 28th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Sherri is fat. Why is that a curse word? She is what she is.
May 28th, 2008 at 3:19 am
There was a discussion about women being allowed to play sports allocated to “men”. FYI- Check the Independent Women’s Football League (IWFL) website.
May 28th, 2008 at 7:19 am
Again…..Why is it ok to bash thin people but not those that are overweight?….thank you ladies for making my point for me!!
May 28th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Don’t confuse Sherri with being fat when then real fact is that she has extremely large breasts that are not proportionate to her body so she looks heavy, when in all reality she is the same size as Dolly.
May 28th, 2008 at 8:32 am
In civilized conversation the term “fat” should not be used. The word is very hurtful, so why even go there?
May 28th, 2008 at 9:03 am
Fat is an appropriate word to use to describe someone. As is overweight and heavy set.
May 28th, 2008 at 9:41 am
“Whoopi said that people should stop buy magazines that support the notion of thin women and wait until they put real people on covers of magazines.”
I sort of agree with what Whoopie is saying (to a point) but not the way she expressed it. My problem is with her expression “real women” - it’s a phrase that claims to be all about body acceptance, when in reality it’s all about promoting only one body type. Thin women are real women too, as are overweight women. I’ve been so thin people have accused me of being anorexic, and I’ve also been 100 pounds overweight, and I’ve been every imaginable size in between and there was only about 2 months back in 2002 when I was considered the “right” size. Being on both sides of the weight issues makes me realize just how narrow most people’s definitions of acceptable weight is. The media promotes almost nothing but women who are really, really thin - and then on the opposite end of the spectrum we have people like Whoopie who are claiming that only those who aren’t thin are “real.” If we continue to define what’s acceptable so narrowly we’re only going to keep going round and round in circles.
So I find Whoppie’s idea a nice thought - we should demand more from magazines as far as what body types they are showing. However I object to her notion that thin women aren’t “real” women. I think a better thing for her to say would have been “magazines need to represent a broader range of body types and we shouldn’t continue to buy magazines that only show women who are really, really thin.” I want variety. I don’t consider it progress if all we’re going to end up with is just ONE body type represented.
May 28th, 2008 at 10:11 am
“Fat is an appropriate word to use to describe someone. As is overweight and heavy set.”
The term is negative. It’s not used to compliment someone, it’s used to degrade and humiliate people.
Sarah,
Great post! I agree with all of your points.
May 28th, 2008 at 10:27 am
I’m pretty thin and in my early 20s, but I have high cholesterol. There you have it… It’s not about “fat” or “thin”, it’s “healthy” or “unhealthy”, and both healthy and unhealthy come in many shapes and sizes.
Katherine, I think the problem people are expressing is not about you being thin and therefore not a “real” woman. I think it’s that you are using the words fat and unhealthy as if they are the same, and thin and healthy as if they are the same.
May 28th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Fat is a descriptive word. Perfectly valid. Some will consider her fat. Others won’t. I’ll concede that fat, when not used in a clinincal sense, is subjective.
In the past, some here have called the b*tch Elisabeth a whore.
Where was the out cry then? Only one person was verbal and she was told that Elisabeth wasn’t her “best friend” and to get over it.
By everyone’s defination of whore stupid Elisabeth isn’t a whore. The word whore was used as a negative attack on her. And it didn’t even fit.
As a matter of opinion, mine, Elisabeth is a b*tch and stupid. Again, others will agree. Others will not.
Sherri is fat. If the topic of conversation is about her weight, that is a descriptive word that is appropriate to use.
May 28th, 2008 at 10:47 am
PRIOR POST: Fat is an appropriate word to use to describe someone. As is overweight and heavy set.
RESPONSE: If you selectively choose your dictionary definition, you are probably correct. If you care about how it is received by the listeners, I think you are in error. I think most people would respond to “fat” much more negatively than “overweight” or “heavy set” even if they are synonyms.
May 28th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Lajet ,
Thanks for making my point.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I don’t mind when people call Elisabeth a whore. And I don’t mind when people call Sherri fat.
I’m not being selective. I’m being consistent.
May 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
# 35 Sarah,
I agree, and very good points.
# 37, M. I agree, I think that is the problem.
# 39 Lajet,
If you care about how it is received by the listeners, I think you are in error.
I agree
# 41 Lopez,
Of course you are welcome to your opinion and views, and your descriptions.
I believe you are consistent.
My opinion is that all 3 terms, fat, whore, and stupid bitch, are negative and hurtful terms.
If I’m not mistaken Sherri has lost a lot of weight, and I don’t believe that she is overweight any longer.
May 28th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
PRIOR POST: I’m not being selective. I’m being consistent.
RESPONSE: As Sandy says, you may be being consistent. I don’t think you are being kind. It all depends on whether you care how others respond to what you say.
May 28th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
“It all depends on whether you care how others respond to what you say.”
I’ll give you one guess.
May 28th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
PRIOR POST: “It all depends on whether you care how others respond to what you say.”
I’ll give you one guess.
RESPONSE: what you say makes perfect sense now. another exmaple of how sometimes people make assumptions about the context of what others are saying.
May 28th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Okay