The View October 3rd Recap: Sarah Silverman
The View started today with Barbara Walters recounting the eventful day she had yesterday. She said that she almost never goes to the bathroom, because that is the key to her success. While other people have to take bathroom breaks, she can sit through important meetings or election coverage and not miss anything. Yesterday she had to go to the bathroom and her worst fear came true: she was locked in the stall. She had to lay on the floor and slide out from under the stall.
After that incident, she went to the movies with Executive Producer Bill Geddie. He complained about her because she talked during the film and asked questions. They saw Elizabeth:The Golden Age. She repeatedly tried to ask Bill questions about Sir Walter Raleigh, Elizabeth, etc. during the movie. Whoopi said, “You’re like a Black woman at the movies.” Sherri Shepherd said that she and her friends went to an all-Black play and spent the whole show shouting out to the characters. Barbara said that when she went to see Waiting to Exhale (although she called it Waiting to Exile), the audience was mostly Black women and they were talking throughout the film. Barbara said that white women don’t talk in the movies, they just sit politely. Whoopi said that Barbara “is a sister.”
When Barbara left the movie, she realized that she lost her phone. They called the number and a nice woman answered who had found the phone. She was able to get it back. Whoopi and Elisabeth both thought that Barbara should not have told the woman over the phone that she was Barbara Walters, because if she had not been a nice person, she may have taken all of Barbara’s important contacts and information off of her phone.
The next topic was Halle Berry who recently announced her pregnancy. She said that she feels “more married” with her boyfriend Gabriel Aubry now than when she was married two previous times. She said that he understands the spiritual connection much more than the pomp and circumstance of the ceremony. Sherri said that when you commit before God it is not pomp and circumstance. She believes that when you get married, got knits you together in a spiritual way. She said that when you get divorced it is like you are being wrenched apart.
Elisabeth said that you don’t rent someone a car or give them cell phone service without a contract, so you should not be cohabitating and bringing children into the world without a marriage contract. She said that there is a study by the Urban Institute that said that children of cohabitating couples are more likely to suffer material hardships like poverty and security.
Whoopi said that she can make a commitment and stick to it, but because people grow and change, you don’t want to be afraid that “God is going to be pissed at you” when twenty years down the line you realize that its not going to work. Elisabeth said that people in the gay community that want to get married should be pissed because heterosexual couples that have the right to marry are choosing not to.
Elisabeth said that you have to separate out Halle Berry from the discussion, because she is in the “I’m rich so I can do this” category. People who aren’t rich have different issues when it comes to being not married with children. Whoopi said that she was unmarried with children and she disagrees with Elisabeth. Whoopi said, “I think you are very young to have such a strong idea about something like this.” Elisabeth said, “I am 30 years old” and Whoopi responded, “Wow!!” Elisabeth said that if she said that they were all very old, that would not be fair. Elisabeth wants to know who will take responsibility for the child if there is no obligation. Whoopi said that it is not easy raising kids with or without money.
Barbara said that for her special about longevity she interviewed several people over the age of 100. One of the women was a 101 year-old woman who was living with her 94 year-old boyfriend. The woman said that she was in an unhappy marriage for 46 years and has never been as happy as she is now living with her boyfriend.
The next topic was that Hillary Clinton has proposed a plan that would give every baby born in the United States a $5000 bond for college or toward a home. Sherri said that she would take the money and go to Hawaii. This program will cost the government $20 billion a year, while the Iraq War costs $150 billion a year. Elisabeth pointed out that the money would go to all babies, not just those in need. She said that then someone who is barely above the poverty line will have their tax dollars going to Bill Gates’ kids, for example. Joy said that it is like Social Security in that it goes to both the rich and the poor.
Elisabeth said that initially she was against the plan, but now she thinks that it might be good in that it would cause less abortions because people would want the $5000. Whoopi asked her if she has ever been in the position to have to make that decision. She said “never.” Whoopi said, “Then back off a little bit. Very few people want to have abortions.” She said that it is the hardest decision women ever have to make and she should have “a little bit of reverence” to the women out there who had to make this horrible decision. Elisabeth said, “I have reverence.” Whoopi pointed out that the reason why we have laws allowing abortions is that “too many women were found bleeding, dead, with hangers with their bodies because they were doing it themselves. The idea was to make it safe and clean and that is the reason the law came into effect.”
Barbara said that Elisabeth’s argument is like when people said that women would have babies just so they could collect from welfare. She said that there are very few women who would do that. Joy said that if you do the math, it is impossible to raise a child on those kind of entitlements. Elisabeth said, “You can’t ignore the fact that there are abortions done for superficial reasons and for reasons that are not extreme.”
Joy said that after she was divorced, she and her daughter lived off $10,000 from her ex-husband and a unemployment insurance. She said that without that little bit of entitlement from the government, she would not be here today. She said that people need a little boost every now and again.
The next topic was how a jury awarded a woman $11.6 million in a sexual harassment lawsuit against New York Knicks head coach Isiah Thomas and Madison Square Garden. Isiah does not have pay anything, but MSG and its chairman do. Barbara said that Isiah has a very nice smile and seems like a charming man, but wondered if should he have had to pay out of pocket or should he have been fired for his conduct? Barbara also said that Isiah reportedly said that he called the woman a “bitch” and “a ho,” but that it was okay because Black men can speak to Black women that way. Sherri said that she does not differentiate between what Black men or white men can say to her and that she is not a bitch and will not be called a bitch by a man. Whoopi said that she has been called so many names by so many different people that it doesn’t even really matter to her.
Sarah Silverman appeared on the show to promote the new season of The Sarah Silverman Program. Sherri said that Sarah has been dating Jimmy Kimmel for five years and asked when they were going to get married. Sarah said that they are not going to get married because she does not want the government involved in their love. She said that they are married in their hearts. Sherri asked why God can’t be involved in her love. Sarah said that she does not have religion. She said that she is cultural and undeniably Jewish, but that she cannot believe that there is a God.
At the MTV video music awards, Sarah called Britney Spears’ children, “the most adorable mistakes” and she stands by that. People in Britney’s camp needed an excuse for why Britney performed so badly, so they used Sarah’s joke as a reason. Sarah said, “It’s not unusual for Jews to be scapegoats.” She stands by her jokes, but she was upset that the joke overshadowed all of the great jokes that she had. She pointed out that MTV put her on right after Britney Spears, so she should have been able to do jokes about her. Elisabeth said that sometimes children are off-limits. Sarah said that she was not making fun of the kids. She was making fun of Britney.
Sarah said that she did not say anything differently than any late night comedian has said before or since. Joy pointed out that they are all men. Whoopi (using another accent) asked her if she thought that the bias will ever change for female comedians. (I think that Whoopi has taken to using accents in the interview segments because she finds them so boring). Sarah said that she doesn’t want to blame the fact that she is female, but that she doesn’t know if that is the reason because she has always been a woman and doesn’t know anything different.
On The Sarah Silverman Program, Sarah plays a character that is sort of herself and her real-life sister plays her sister. However, in the show, her parents are dead, but they are alive in real life. She said that the reason why her character’s parents died is because it is a cheap way to get a little pathos for her character, who is kind of an A-hole (I think that is what she said, it was bleeped).
For more on Sarah Silverman, check out Sarah Silverman Online.
Lee Pace appeared to promote his new show Pushing Daisies. He stars as Ned, a man whose touch can bring the dead back to life. If he touches the person again, they go back to being dead. If they stay alive for longer than a minute than someone else dies. He loves the moral question of the show about whether you should bring someone back to life and allow them to stay alive. Whoopi asked how long his character will be able to hold out from having sex with his love interest. Lee said that there is something cool and old-fashioned about their relationship because they cannot touch.
Lee was nominated for a Golden Globe for Soldier’s Girl, which was based on a true story. In the movie,he played a transgendered woman whose boyfriend, a soldier, was brutally murdered because of their relationship. He said that was a difficult role for him to play because he knew and respected the woman he was playing.
The View, Sherri Shepherd, Whoopi Goldberg, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, Barbara Walters, Sarah Silverman, Halle Berry, The Sarah Silverman Program, Pushing Daises, Isiah Thomas, Lee Pace
October 3rd, 2007 at 7:31 pm
I’m sorry I missed this. If people are going to put EH in her place, I’m going to start watching more regularly! I’m loving Sherri, and it seems Whoopi is doing a terrific job.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm
You guys, I am SO disgusted that the comments they made yesterday about wanting to “do” Nancy Pelosi’s husband didn’t get more press. It was so unprofessional. This isn’t some comedian that was on the show, this is Speaker of the House, a government official. Where do they get off making an uninvited comment like that about her husband?? What if it was reversed and it was a group of men at that table and the speaker was a male and his wife was in the audience and they made a comment about wanting to “do” her? Do you think that would pass? Absolutely not.
As for today’s show, EH is an idiot. It’s one thing to be passionate about your beliefs, I can respect that, but it’s another to shove them down other’s throats and to not even be open to listening to other’s opinions. Just to wait for a break in conversation to get your hot headed words in there again.
October 3rd, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Shannon I so agree with you!!! If it were men speaking to a woman it would so unacceptable. Neither Nancy Pelosi or Faith Hill received the comment well.
On the other hand, todays show really disturbed me beyond the glee that Whoopie put EH in her place a few times today.
My issue is, EH and Sherry are certainly entitled to how they want to live their lives, but I dont think I have heard them say, what I prefer for ME.. or I dont judge others but this is how i prefer to live my life… ITs all or nothing!!! Its this mentallity that if this is the way I want to live my life..the rest of the world should do the same!! Thats what really bothers me.
I am Pro Choice, Pro Gay Marriage, Pro living together or married for same sex couples. But, I have had 4 unplanned children, one after my tubes tied, never had an abortion. I feel a commitment does require a marriage license in my life in order for me to feel like I am on board. I am not gay.
When Sherry said that when you get a divorce you become wrenched apart..man did I identify with that.. took me years to come to terms with it even thou I was the one who wanted the divorce.
My point is, my beliefs for my personal life does not make me think that all people should endure what I did because my life has a seperate set of circumstances than others. I am only one person on one particular path in life. I can never judge or impose my lifestyle or choices on any other person. I raised my children to have the same point of view.
In a way, its like saying.. my religion is the best one and if your not practicing it, your immoral. Unlike EH analogy that if you rent a car you need a contract (like marriage).. sheesh.
I guess what I am saying is, we all take paths of life for particular reasons that should not have to be explained. People like EH has been fortunate in her family, education and choices. Good for her for real. But others have not been as fortunate and end up in difficult circumstances.
Until you walk in another woman shoes…….
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:08 pm
I haven’t watched the show since Rosie left. I think they’re just trying to keep the show in the news. That’s why they say such outrageous stuff.
I don’t know anyone who speaks that way about another persons husband. Even friends I’ve had since childhood, I would never say anything so disrespectful to them like I’d like to “do” your hubby and they would never say anything like that about my husband.
Other than BW are there other women who are running the show?
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Aileen. You make some great points. I have to admit thus far, although there are many things I don’t agree with Sherri on, Ilike her and can listen to her. She’s not as grating and self-rightous about the whole thing. It’s not EH’s views that bother me, it’s her lack of understanding, her knee-jerk response, her lack of ability to discuss opposing viewpints, and her life as a talking point scripted by the Rub-can party. Sherri doesn’t come across like that.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 pm
I agree, I think Whoopie is bored….and EH is getting progressively more unbearable to listen to and watch. They would be wise to not have her return after her maternity leave. She has NO talent and just doesn’t shut up. Ruins the show some days.
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Winnie, I love being link buddies with you!
October 4th, 2007 at 2:13 am
Great points Aileen. You just reminded me of EH’s ‘lease a car and cell phone contract’ comment. I thought it was a terrible analogy. And very weak.
Sometimes there are valid reasons to break a contract. With marriage, there are trust issues, abuse issues, cheating spouses,… I’m surprised Sherri did not call EH out on that. Conversely, people have villainized Hilary for standing by Bill Clinton after the Monica thing. I’m disappointed the other hosts did not bring up that point when EH was spouting off about contracts.
Marriage is not one size fits all. That’s why it’s important to NOT enter it lightly nor do it because someone else thinks it’s right. I also thought EH’s point validated Halle’s decision not to marry; if marriage is a contract shouldn’t she be happy Halle and her bf choose not to sign and instead keep their relationship as is?
Also, contracts are not FOREVER. The ones I have signed have been for a certain period of time.
EH reminds me of a woman I used to work with. She shared the same type of feelings. Her marriage was perfect, her husband was perfect, her kids were perfect, her life was perfect. And the reasons why it was perfect was because the woman did everything right; right church, right convictions. She had a very ‘black and white’ view of the world. Well, 5 years later she experienced the ‘perfect’ divorce. Her perfect husband got hooked on meth and apparently was ruining them financially. And I am sure it was emotionally draining as well.
I hope EH does not have her marriage tested in such a way.
October 4th, 2007 at 3:54 am
Lajet - you hit the nail on the head. I can handle Elisabeth’s conservative views - I disagree with them but it is her right to have them. It is her holier-than-thou, hectoring attitude that grates. It grates because almost every viewer has lived their life and knows that life is not black and white the way Elisabeth makes it out to be. As I’ve said before, I can’t wait for her bald husband to have an affair - that’s if any other woman with a pulse could find him attractive. Then EH would see how complicated life can be.
October 4th, 2007 at 3:58 am
Oh and regarding Nancy Pelosi’s husband. He reminded me of a much older version of Chris Noth - I thought he was very attractive but I feel like an old fuddy duddy when I say that I also thought they were out of line saying they wanted to “do” her husband. It was just icky more than anything. Imagine a male panel saying that to a male guest about his wife.
October 4th, 2007 at 5:54 am
“Also, contracts are not FOREVER. The ones I have signed have been for a certain period of time.”
I love this point Stacee and wish one of the other hosts would have thought of it. Perhaps for the first time EH may have been silenced! Even if only temporarily.
I couldn’t figure out who Nancy Pelosi’s husband reminded me of until I read your post Ann. An older version of Chris Noth hits it right on. Yummy! But would I have said that to the speaker of the house? Geesh!
October 4th, 2007 at 6:10 am
I’ve been hesitant to do this because I’m sure a lot of you will find it really cheesy and I also don’t want to get into a back and forth debate about abortion. There is a song from 1999 (What It’s Like by Everlast) it has really great lyrics. Here is part of the lyrics (even though EH can’t relate and doesn’t agree it actually is quite sad that she can’t be compassionate):
Mary got pregnant from a kid named Tom who said he was in love
He said don’t worry about a thing baby doll I’m the man you’ve been dreamin’ of
But three months later he said he won’t date her or return her call
And she sweared god damn if I find that man I’m cuttin’ off his balls
And then she heads for the clinic and she gets some static walkin’ through the doors
They call her a killer, and they call her a sinner, and they call her a whore
[CHORUS]
God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes
‘Cause then you really might know what it’s like to have to choose
Then you really might know what it’s like [X4]
October 4th, 2007 at 7:36 am
I think wise people let personal experiences shape their views and opinions, while judgmental people arrive at their views by being influenced by others. On a personal note; When I was a teen I considered myself open-minded and accepting of all people . Then my sister came out to my family and I couldn’t believe how I felt about her being a lesbian.
It was something I’ve known all along in the back of my mind, but to hear her say those words was quite a shocker for me.
Eventually I got over it and because it touched me in a personal way, I now understand what gays and lesbians go through. I wrote an article about my family’s experience for our local paper and it touched a lot of people.
I think if EH knew someone who had to make a choice such as having an abortion, she would began to understand that it’s not a casual decision and it’s a horrible situation to be it.
Instead of judging , she should offer love and compassion. No one wants to feel as though they’ve been castigated for choices they’ve made in their life.
I have a friend who calls herself “pro-life” I told her I believe everyone is pro-life, people who are against abortions are anti-abortion and I refuse to call them “pro-life”. I value life too, that’s why I think women should have a choice in their lives.
October 4th, 2007 at 10:40 am
I’m just writing a bit about today’s show (Oct 4th).Marsha Hardin was on and brought out her twins dressed in Halloween outfits. EH went nuts!! She alone jumped up,went over to the kids,cooed and acted the usual fool.Kids just looked at her like “huh?” EH took over the interviews with Hardin and Jack Cafferty with great relish..showing off to beat the band. He voted for bush and Joy said “What,were you drunk”? Good one Joy. EH just looked disgusted at that. Pity!
October 4th, 2007 at 11:00 am
May,
Jack Cafferty is a pretty straight shooter. He tells it like it is. Did he give his take on the current crop of candidates running? Also when Whoopi was on Larry King she said she loved Jack’s book.
October 4th, 2007 at 11:07 am
rainlillie, Jack said, when asked, that he liked Barak Obama since his donators were mostly smaller amounts from many people. He said that was what was supposed to be, not huge amounts from fewer people. He voted for bush but he says he (bush) has had a chip on his shoulder his whole life. He said he doesn’t see any MAN that can change things for the better. Joy said “There is a woman that can”. I like Jack.
October 4th, 2007 at 11:34 am
And he said he liked Ron Paul!
October 4th, 2007 at 11:47 am
I’m going to get Jack’s book, it sounds very interesting. I use to watch him years ago when he was on the New York news.
October 4th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
I actually watched half the show broadcast today since last May and not just clips. Missed all the “Hot Topics”. I liked the Jack Cafferty interview, because he could hold his own and had interesting views. Marcia Harden was eloquent (a bit verbose) in her response to questions but I wasn’t too interesting in what she was plugging, so it got a bit dull. Whoopi was so laid back that I could forget she was even there at times. Suprisingly, neither Joy nor Sherri had a lot of say. Joy spewed out all those alcoholic jokes for Jack but not much else. EH was jumping in at every opportunity she got. Too bad she’s still not very likeable. Not a lot of energy in this show. It’s like a show one would leave on the tv while doing something else more engaging.
Geez, Annie Lennox had only Whoopi interview her, and no one came on stage after she sang. She did sit at the table with all the ladies at the end but didn’t have to talk to them. And they couldn’t agree to do something like that for Barry Manilow?
October 4th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Aileen, I love your openmindedness…it’s refreshing. I wish more people saw the world like that. And Viva, you just reminded me how much I like that song! I’m going to get it today. Thanks for posting that, great lyrics and really relevant here.
October 4th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Yes, todays show was a bit lame. And then there’s EH jumping up to overwhelm those kids in the costumes. I’m surprised she wasn’t comparing them to Grace! Is EH a little bit like Kathy lee gifford{the live with regis days?} in always going on and on about her kid?? Jeez, i’ve got two kids but I certainly don’t bore the world about them!Forgive me, EH drives me nuts!!!!!
October 4th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Starr, Yes,EH does remind me of Kathy Lee Gifford. I’ve been thinking that a long time but didn’t say it out loud. EH wanted everyone to see how great she is with kids today. The kids didn’t look too impressed to me. Hope EH does indeed have 10 more kids..and soon!!! Now that her 3rd string QB hubby has been fired and works for Fox, she’ll be seeing more of him.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
May,
I was never a Kathy Lee fan, but I found her somewhat tolerable. I find it strange how EH gets all worked up when they talk about matters of infidelity…Makes you wonder.
Someone nailed it a few weeks ago , when they said something like, EH acts like a teen trying to keep her seat at the popular table.
October 4th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
I was glad to see Kathy lee go but I soon got tired of Kelly overtalking wonderful Regis all the time so I quit watching that. Now EH is acting like a spoiled brat at the grownups table, as you said. Maybe it’s the dyed blond, loud mouthed, know it all types that I prefer not to listen to or watch. I wish Joy would add more to the interviews. She just sorta sits there and lets EH do all the yakking at the visitors in her loud way.Well enough complaining for me today.I’m looking for the day EH is gone bye-bye. I won’t complain once.
October 4th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
Yeah EH needs to stop talking about her child so much. Oh, wait a minute didn’t Rosie talk about her kids alot too. I don’t think EH can do anything right in most people’s eyes that comment on here. No matter what she does or says you people will completly shred her for it no matter how big or small the incident. Don’t get me wrong I don’t agree with all her views as she can be ultra-conservative but their her views, it’s just one voice on television. Get real.
October 4th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Also, on another thread someone implied I follow the orders of Bush. Just to let you know I’m a registered Democrat. I just don’t have my head inplated in my ass like the far left does.
October 4th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Sorry meant to type inplanted.
October 4th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
You mean implanted.
October 4th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
It’s cuz EH tries too hard - to be perfect, to be adored, to be Fox-worthy. She’s such a desperate co-host!
October 4th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
When someone on a high-profile talk show about current events comes across as selfish, sanctimonious, without a shred of compassion–or talent or wit–at the ripe old age of 30, who interrupts all guests, I don’t find that compelling or interesting or entertaining or inspiring TV. In other words, EH has given me no reason to like her or feel she is worthwhile having on the air spewing her views about issues that will dramatically and negatively affect people’s lives if they become policy. I don’t understand why it isn’t okay to criticize someone on TV who has given you reason to. I don’t recall much if any comments that trash her appearance or something stupid like that. To call those of us who are offended by her as having our heads “inplanted up our asses” seems excessively rude and harsh. Why do you care if we don’t like her? “The far left” — I never hear Democrats using that term, only Fox, et al., watchers.
October 4th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
I don’t care if you like her I just think you’re being completely unfair. You pick apart every thing she says. I mean wasn’t it Rosie who last year, as I watched the show, said the right to bear arms wasn’t protected in the Constitution. How insane is that? You want her off the show simply because she doesn’t have the same views you believe in. Interrupting guests and talking over other co-hosts they all do it. The reason why I like the show is because it’s original in the fact that it’s four women talking and you get a different perspective than any other talk show.
News flash Peaches there’s a far left and a far right where I think the likes of Coulter lurks I for one don’t listen to either of them as I think they’re a little too extreme for me. One more question how do you know what Fox is saying unless you’re the one watching them?
October 4th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
I’m exposed to many right wingers in my life, Kenneth; Fox is unfortunately in the background, foreground, etc. Believe me, I am not happy that it’s blasted eveywhere in my life and I can’t escape it. It’s incessant.
Kenneth, I only hear right wingers, on air and off, use the term “the far left.” That’s my experience. Fortunately I do have left of center people in my life, and when we all argue, it’s never calling one another “the far left.” It’s arguing about which policy or which tactic is going to best serve our liberal ideals. Your “news flash” confuses me: I didn’t say there was not ” a far left” and “a far right.” You don’t need to be so sarcastic about it. I said I didn’t hear in my life other liberals call each other “the far left.”
I don’t hear the other panelists yip yip yipping and piping up and interrupting as blatantly as EH does. I know there is cross-talk. I just don’t hear them doing it the way she does. I guess you do. So be it. Obviously EH doesn’t offend you. I’ve given my reasons why I am grossly offended by her. I don’t dislike her “just because.” It’s like Bush as well: I don’t “hate” him just because I’m a “Bush hater.” I am furious at his policies and what he has done to our country; he has earned my wrath and alarm.
I don’t know what else to say about it except we just disagree about this.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:54 am
“I just don’t have my head inplated in my ass like the far left does.”
Now that’s a rather interesting statement. Considering I was opposed to this war and opposed to Bush before he was put into office.
I’d say so far I’ve been right and the people who were on the other side of this issue have been wrong.
I’m a registered Independent and I believe in human rights for all. I don’t believe the president or any other politician should make policy decisions based on his religious views.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:58 am
I think people need to get off EH back. She is doing her job just like the every other person on that panel. Just because her view is different…that doesn’t mean its bad! Its gives a variety and that what makes the view so good. Give EH a chance! I think she is very talented!
October 5th, 2007 at 7:18 am
I agree Jon A, she is doing her job… for the GOP,putting out incorrect facts and numbers. I only ask that she enters the conversation in a honest way. I haven’t figured out what her talent is yet.
October 5th, 2007 at 7:22 am
Peaches,
In the state I live in it’s right wing radio 24 hours a day on the AM radio. I’m not kidding, even our sports shows are run by fox. I have to download progressive radio shows online, and put them on my MP3 player in order to hear another point of view.
October 5th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
I just think it’s interesting that the only bloggers that want to defend EH are men. What do you care Jon and Kenneth if most of us don’t think highly EH? It’s our opinion. It’s not that she is representing a conservative view, it’s the way she does it.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
My one response to Kenneth is: if you don’t want to hear people give their views speaking against shrill,anti-rights for women, glorifying bush,lapping up everything the gop spouts out as gospel then choose a manly show to watch such as boxing or wrestling. And get your head out of the sand.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
“My one response to Kenneth is: if you don’t want to hear people give their views speaking against shrill,anti-rights for women, glorifying bush,lapping up everything the gop spouts out as gospel then choose a manly show to watch such as boxing or wrestling. And get your head out of the sand.”
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May,
That made me spit out my tea. ROTFLMAO! Great response.
October 5th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Boxing or wrestling don’t come on at eleven in the morning.
October 5th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
#38 Meredith Says:
“I just think it’s interesting that the only bloggers that want to defend EH are men.”
Considering how EH looks, I’m guessing a lot of women are jealous. Besides that, she’s got a successful hubby, starting a family which she obviously adores, and comes across as happy with her life.
October 5th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Why is it when women say something about another woman some boneheaded men say they are jealous?
October 5th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Her hubby lost his job how successful is that?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
#44 Christine Says: ”Her hubby lost his job how successful is that?”
Lost his job meaning as the starting quarterback or lost his job meaning he is no longer under contract on the Seahawks receiving a paycheck?
October 5th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Brandon, you’re referring to Matt Hasselbeck Seattle Seahawks quarterback, that’s her brother in-law, her husband is Tim Hasselbeck backup to Eli last year with the Giants. He got cut at the end of training camp and is now a color commentator for Fox football games.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
The people who have a problem with EH have clearly stated their reasons, and I think their reasons are valid. It’s laughable to say that those who have a problem with her are just jealous of her looks - particularly when you’re speaking to people online and have no idea what the rest of us look like. EH is cute, but good grief she’s not stunning. And her life sounds alright, but it doesn’t sound wonderful enough that it would make people jealous. She has a decent job, an unattractive husband and a child - tons of people have that.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:19 pm
I like EH, I guess I don’t find her as irritating as most of the other posters here. I really don’t think that their opinions has much to do with her looks. Many have stated that their dislike of her is not about her political “views”, but I believe that that is where a lot of it surely starts.
I didn’t find her greetings of the twins as anything other than someone who has a great love for children. Perhaps she did overwhelm them, but I understand her reaction completely. I might have done the same thing myself. As for talking about her child often,
she does, but I don’t have a problem with that. Yes Rosie did talk about her children often as well, again I didn’t have a problem with that.
I tend to think that if EH interrupted with a more progressive viewpoint, some would be a lot more willing to overlook it. ??
I would also like to say that I don’t have a problem with others here expressing their dislike of EH. I’m sure that there are blogs out there where EH is admired.
I like what Rainlillie said: “I think wise people let personal experiences shape their views and opinions..” It’s true,. and I think most people do that. We all live and learn along the way. A 30 year old is going to have some different views and opinions, than say a 50 year old,..about some things anyway.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
I’m not sure if anyone here is familiar with a group called Vote Vets, it’s a group that is made up of Iraq war and Afghanistan veterans. One of the founders of the group Jon Soltz, was on the Randi Rhodes radio show, he said that he really dislikes EH, because she’s supporting a failed policy and hasn’t really sacrificed anything for the war.
He said he’d like to ask her or husband to enlist and fight.It bothers him that she and her husband sit back and cheers the war on without ever fully grasping what these soldiers and their families are going through.
He also said that his sister in-law no longer watches the view because of EH. He’s a Rosie fan and he asked Randi to let Rosie know that he would like to get in touch with her.
You can listen to the show here http://www.wilem.com/rrs/rrs_20071004_000.mp3
October 6th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Do you know how far into the show they talk about Rosie/EH?
October 6th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
I just listened and he starts talking about her at 1:52:34. I’m using the Windows media player so it may different with another player.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Rainlillie - thanks for your post about Vote Vets. As for Kenneth, I don’t think Elisabeth is beautiful at all. I think her hair looks especially skanky at the moment (touch your roots up EH) and she is cross-eyed and rather orange from too much fake tanning. I agree with May, I don’t mind that EH is a conservative even though I disagree with her views, my annoyance is that she is so anti women’s rights. Up until the 1960’s men completely controlled women in every way because women had no reproductive control over their bodies. Before the pill, our grandmothers had baby after baby, couldn’t work because they had to care for large broods of children, therefore had no economic freedom. I don’t even want to think about how horrific back street abortions were in those days. EH doesn’t understand that abortions have always been around and always will be, repealing Roe v Wade will not change this. I think Whoopi made a good point the other day when she asked EH if she had ever had to consider an abortion. EH replied that she had not and Whoopi told her to shut up and butt out of other women’s personal business.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Rainlillie, the clip ends at 1:52:34
October 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
It works on my player. It’s within the last ten minutes of his interview. You can try a site called “White Rose society.” Just click on the Randi Rhodes link and it’s Thursdays show.
I looked for a transcript and I can’t find one. If I find more info I’ll let you know. I tired in my earlier post to summarize pretty much what he said.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Ann,
You’re welcome!
October 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
I was looking at the length of the show instead of the time at the bottom. He starts talking about her at: 58:14. Let me know if that works for you.
October 6th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
Sorry to keep bothering you but I really want to hear it. The last 10 minutes are of a Vietnam war vet and they are talking about ptsd and a “grateful nation”… can you tell me if its around that time?
October 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Rainlillie, sorry I didnt see your post. You’re right, it starts at 58:14, thanks I’m listening to it right now.
October 8th, 2007 at 9:46 am
i love EH. i am 73 years old, mother of six diversified kids and love the diversity on the show.
October 8th, 2007 at 10:21 am
Cindy,
I don’t think anyone is complaining about the diversity of the show, it seems people are complaining about the lies that EH tells on a daily basis. Just put the facts out and let the people decide.
October 8th, 2007 at 10:37 am
i don’t think one can specifically say she lies. she tells it as she sees it. that is part of the diversity i have mentioned.
now, YOU can say that I have lied about EH. but i am telling it as i SEE (hear) it.
all in the eye of the beholder or, in some cases, the ear of the listener.
but, surely, nothing to get so worked up about or upset over. it is up to an individual to reasearch and conclude what is the actual truth to them. and you may still not convince everyone that you have, indeed, found the TRUTH.
personally? i take it all with a grain of salt LOL
October 8th, 2007 at 10:50 am
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Sarah said:
The people who have a problem with EH have clearly stated their reasons, and I think their reasons are valid. It’s laughable to say that those who have a problem with her are just jealous of her looks - particularly when you’re speaking to people online and have no idea what the rest of us look like. EH is cute, but good grief she’s not stunning. And her life sounds alright, but it doesn’t sound wonderful enough that it would make people jealous. She has a decent job, an unattractive husband and a child - tons of people have that.
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Well said, Sarah!
October 8th, 2007 at 10:55 am
Cindy,
Lets start with her talking about the morning after pill and the stats that she gives out about drunk driving or the number of languages that Jackie O spoke.
To me that’s lying when you’re putting out false facts. Someone came on here and tired to tell us the morning after pill was an abortion pill. This person got that info from EH.
October 8th, 2007 at 11:01 am
cindy,
I wish I could take the deaths of so many people “with a grain of salt.” When people have a forum like EH does and gives out false information about the war, it really enrages me.
It’s irresponsible for her to tell everyone that things are going well in Iraq, when expert after expert have said there not.
The purpose of the surge was to give the politicians there enough time to come together, and so far they haven’t done anything, besides go on vacation.
October 8th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
I’ve always said that Elisabeth is a 30 year old woman trapped in a 73 year old male dentist’s body.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Sometimes I wonder if some people think this is a “fan site” where you’re supposed to only say positive things, like “I liked EH’s dress today.” “The set looks nice.” etc. Like an official View site, where the cast comes here and reads everything? I always got the idea from Winnie’s statement of “add your comments” and not chastizing anyone that this was a “warts and all” place to share your views on The View. I’m always scratching my head at admonishments to not ever criticize.
October 11th, 2007 at 11:19 am
things are not going well in iraq. i, for one, do wish it had never happened. BUT.. i do believe sad/huss had to go. and i do believe there are other dictators who need to disappear. HOWEVER… that said, there is a part of me that wishes we never ever got embroiled in “helping” some of these countries or letting such a huge amount of immigrants in. in my lifetime the picture is not going to change much for me. but in generations to come we may be VERY sorry we meddled and, also, allowed such a plethora of people into this country. please note: i said “may”.
i think we need to worry about global warming, the ozone layer and the rain forest. perhaps more than war. without taking care of the above mentioned it won’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. no one will survive.
i do fear for my future generations.
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